Guns And States

Thursday, January 7th, 2016

The entire effect Vox highlights in their graph of gun ownership vs. gun deaths is due to gun suicides, but they are using it to imply conclusions about gun homicides, Scott Alexander notes:

Gun Ownership vs. Gun Deaths

Gun Ownership vs. Gun Suicides

Gun Ownership vs. Gun Homicides

The relationship between gun ownership and homicide is weak and negative, he notes, while the relationship between gun ownership and suicide is strong and positive.

The Vox piece also emphasizes that the US has by far the highest number of privately owned guns in the world, but this is not the most important factor in explaining America’s higher homicide rate, or even close to the most important factor:

1. The United States’ homicide rate of 3.8 is clearly higher than that of eg France (1.0), Germany (0.8), Australia (1.1), or Canada (1.4). However, as per the FBI, only 11,208 of our 16,121 murders were committed with firearms, eg 69%. By my calculations, that means our nonfirearm murder rate is 1.2. In other words, our non-firearm homicide rate alone is higher than France, Germany, and Australia’s total homicide rate. Nor does this mean that if we banned all guns we would go down to 1.2 – there is likely a substitution effect where some murderers are intent on murdering and would prefer to use convenient firearms but will switch to other methods if they have to. 1.2 should be considered an absolute lower bound. And it is still higher than the countries we want to compare ourselves to.

2. There are many US states that combine very high firearm ownership with very low murder rates. The highest gun-ownership state in the nation is Wyoming, where 59.7% of households have a gun (really!). But Wyoming has a murder rate of only 1.4 – the same as right across the border in more gun-controlled Canada, and only about a third of that of the nation as a whole. It seems likely that the same factors giving Canada a low murder rate give Wyoming a low murder rate, and that the factors differentiating the rest of America from Wyoming are the same factors that differentiate the rest of America from Canada (and Germany, and France…). But this does not include lower gun ownership.

3. There are many US states that combine very low firearm ownership with very high murder rates. The highest murder rate in the country is that of Washington, DC, which has a murder rate of 21.8, more than twenty times that of most European countries. But DC also has the strictest gun bans and the lowest gun ownership rate in the country, with gun ownership numbers less than in many European states! It seems likely that the factors making DC so deadly are part of the story of why America as a whole is so deadly, but these cannot include high gun ownership.

The traditional answer for America’s high homicide rate is that America has a “culture of violence”:

America has several cultures of violence. There’s the Southern culture of violence that gave us the Hatfield-McCoy feud. And there’s are the various minority cultures of violence that gave us the word “diss” and approximately 100% of rap lyrics. This provides a testable theory: if we compare American non-Southern whites to European countries mostly made up of non-Southern whites, we’ll find similar murder rates. But first, some scatter plots:

This is murder rate by state, correlated with perceived Southernness of that state as per 538’s poll. I’ve removed DC as an outlier on all of the following.

Southernness vs. Murder Rate

And this is murder rate by state correlated with percent black population:

PBlack vs. Murder

This would seem to support the “culture of violence” theory.

Comments

  1. Alrenous says:

    American non-hispanic white murder rate estimate, extracted from FBI and demographic data, 2013: 1.1 per 100,000. (Had to use 2014 population, though, hence estimate.) Not adjusted for southernness.

    Swiss murder rate estimate, 2007, the last year the ‘vast majority’ of military-aged (a.k.a. murdering-aged) men had military-issued ammo to go with their military-issued assault rifles: 1.1 per 100,000. (Based on convictions, so also an estimate. Looks stable, though, aside from last year.) (Notably it’s legal for them to buy compatible ammo if they want.)

  2. Isegoria says:

    Wait, the Swiss stopped supplying their militia with ammo almost a decade ago? I was not aware of that!

    By the way, do you have links you could share for those numbers, Alrenous?

  3. Alrenous says:

    FBI data. I took the white rate to be white – hispanic white. Refer to the far right of the chart.

    Demographics. I used ‘white alone, not hispanic.’

    Swiss was much easier. Gun politics gave me the 2014 rate and raw number, (41) and the crime article gave me convictions for 2007. 93/41 * rate in 2014 = 1.1

  4. Perpippity says:

    Some problems, there, Alrenous. The census data are about non-Hispanic whites, so that’s okay, but there is no “Hispanic white” category in the FBI data. It says “Hispanic or Latino” in the category of offender ethnicity, but Hispanic people aren’t necessarily white. It’s true that these data are broken down by rows which have races assigned to them on the left, but those races are the races of the victims. There’s nothing there that breaks down murders by white people into Hispanic and non-Hispanic numbers. Perhaps that information is available elsewhere, but not on the link you provided.

  5. Alrenous says:

    That is a very broken counterargument. I’m not concerned with the opinions of anyone dense enough to be taken in by it.

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