Comments on: Guns And States https://www.isegoria.net/2016/01/guns-and-states/ From the ancient Greek for equality in freedom of speech; an eclectic mix of thoughts, large and small Tue, 30 Jun 2026 15:46:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.1 By: Alrenous https://www.isegoria.net/2016/01/guns-and-states/comment-page-1/#comment-2463074 Alrenous Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:24:30 +0000 http://www.isegoria.net/?p=39608#comment-2463074 That is a very broken counterargument. I’m not concerned with the opinions of anyone dense enough to be taken in by it.

]]> By: Perpippity https://www.isegoria.net/2016/01/guns-and-states/comment-page-1/#comment-2450992 Perpippity Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:06:45 +0000 http://www.isegoria.net/?p=39608#comment-2450992 Some problems, there, Alrenous. The census data are about non-Hispanic whites, so that’s okay, but there is no “Hispanic white” category in the FBI data. It says “Hispanic or Latino” in the category of offender ethnicity, but Hispanic people aren’t necessarily white. It’s true that these data are broken down by rows which have races assigned to them on the left, but those races are the races of the victims. There’s nothing there that breaks down murders by white people into Hispanic and non-Hispanic numbers. Perhaps that information is available elsewhere, but not on the link you provided.

]]> By: Alrenous https://www.isegoria.net/2016/01/guns-and-states/comment-page-1/#comment-2450441 Alrenous Fri, 08 Jan 2016 20:41:13 +0000 http://www.isegoria.net/?p=39608#comment-2450441 FBI data. I took the white rate to be white – hispanic white. Refer to the far right of the chart.

Demographics. I used ‘white alone, not hispanic.’

Swiss was much easier. Gun politics gave me the 2014 rate and raw number, (41) and the crime article gave me convictions for 2007. 93/41 * rate in 2014 = 1.1

]]> By: Isegoria https://www.isegoria.net/2016/01/guns-and-states/comment-page-1/#comment-2450403 Isegoria Fri, 08 Jan 2016 17:40:23 +0000 http://www.isegoria.net/?p=39608#comment-2450403 Wait, the Swiss stopped supplying their militia with ammo almost a decade ago? I was not aware of that!

By the way, do you have links you could share for those numbers, Alrenous?

]]> By: Alrenous https://www.isegoria.net/2016/01/guns-and-states/comment-page-1/#comment-2450344 Alrenous Fri, 08 Jan 2016 12:26:49 +0000 http://www.isegoria.net/?p=39608#comment-2450344 American non-hispanic white murder rate estimate, extracted from FBI and demographic data, 2013: 1.1 per 100,000. (Had to use 2014 population, though, hence estimate.) Not adjusted for southernness.

Swiss murder rate estimate, 2007, the last year the ‘vast majority’ of military-aged (a.k.a. murdering-aged) men had military-issued ammo to go with their military-issued assault rifles: 1.1 per 100,000. (Based on convictions, so also an estimate. Looks stable, though, aside from last year.) (Notably it’s legal for them to buy compatible ammo if they want.)

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