Kent: And they make the best damn buggy whip the world has ever seen.
William Newman: Yes, it seems to me I have seen some modern military recruiting stuff (certainly not all) that appealed to a sort of anonymous collective badassery aesthetic, things like a bunch of similar-looking dudes deploying out of a vehicle in the kind of shot that doesn’t let you identify them. I can’t remember anything like that ever for a nonmilitary organization, though, and I am having trouble imagining a private company that would choose to do it for employment ads. (I can half...
William Newman: “Bin Laden modeled himself and his strategy on Paul Atreides.” They did seem to draw from common sources, but that’s not at all the same thing as the later one derivative modeling itself on the earlier derivative. Similarly lots of things draw on Northern European history and traditions and myths and superstitions, and some also borrow from each other, but not all. _Dungeons and Dragons_ did borrow from Tolkien, but it also borrowed from _Chainmail_, and (judging from...
Isegoria: I did a quick image-search on “German propaganda posters”, and, perhaps surprisingly, plenty of them showed German soldiers with helmets on, eyes invisible (in shadows), etc. That was only one genre of poster though. Many showed cute German girls or children or hideous caricatures of Jews or of black jazz musicians. This “Bolshevism brings war” poster practically begs to be Wookiee-fied though.
Scipio Americanus: These are neat from a sort of comedic, self-referential angle, and the art is good, but I’d be interested in seeing similar posters that attempted to portray the kind of images the Empire would actually use. That is: helmets off, eyes visible, some emotional appeals to avenge the deaths of innocent imperials in Rebel “terrorist” attacks, etc. There’s plenty of real-life posters that could be used as inspiration.
Isegoria: I will have to re-read The Silmarillion one day — probably after Peter Jackson makes a trilogy of it, and the first one infuriates me. Did I mention that I just started re-reading The Hobbit?
Isegoria: “The power to destroy a thing is the absolute control over it.” — Paul-Muad’Dib to the Guild navigators, at his confrontation with the Emperor Shaddam IV.
Purpleslog: When I used to read Robb’s Global Guerrilla stuff I would think to the line from Dune (book? Movie? Both?) that was something like: “Who can destroy a thing, controls a thing”. I haven’t read Dune since 1983. I think I will read it again.
Scipio Americanus: If Bin Laden had modeled his strategy on Paul, he would have tried to unite the Arabs under him as Mahdi and initiate a widespread series of strikes on oil extraction and refining industries in the Middle East (he who can destroy the oil controls the oil) until the 1st world gave in to his demands. This doesn’t actually work due to the modern, real world Middle East not being a very good mirror to the fictional Arrakis in a wide variety of ways, from population density to...
Andreas: Oil = Spice Middle East = Dune Al Queda = Freemen Bin Laden = Paul Atreides Bin Laden modeled himself and his strategy on Paul Atreides. Only it didn’t quite work out for him.