I don’t discuss Turkey Day nearly as much as Halloween

Thursday, November 28th, 2024

I don’t discuss Turkey Day nearly as much as Halloween:

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  1. Jim says:

    Thanksgiving is the wholesome, inclusive day that many tawny Central, Southern, and Eastern European wannabes join all white British Isles-descended Americans in celebration of our glorious supremacy in the total war of all against all that was the North American continent before the Englishman sailed across the Atlantic Ocean to dominate the Indian savage and make this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus.

    Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind

    Happy Thanksgiving.

  2. T. Beholder says:

    Quotes from the actual participants suffice, to be honest. William Bradford and Ralph Hamor summarized it well enough in The Real Meaning of Thanksgiving: The Triumph of Capitalism over Collectivism.

  3. Jim says:

    I enjoy a humble shitpost, it must be admitted, but the truth really is that Thanksgiving really is a naked celebration of the White Anglo Native American’s bounty in North America taken and held by greater commitment and superior virtue. Anything else is ethnocultural erasure.

  4. T. Beholder says:

    (there weren’t both IN that one)

    I enjoy a humble shitpost, it must be admitted, but the truth really is…

    Not what the actual participants plainly admitted?

    Here’s a less-humble shitpost by Itchy Bacca, compiling more (from this article and others).

  5. Jim says:

    “Socialism” and “capitalism” are hot-button words from the late-nineteenth and early-twentieth centuries. From your own citation:

    “At length, after much debate of things, the Governor … gave way that they should set corn every man for his own particular, and in that regard trust to themselves … And so assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end.”

    If every family were assigned a parcel of land today you would cry SOCIALISM or COMMUNISM or some other such nonsense because embedded deep and immutable in your ideological construct is the implicit proposition that property, especially real property, precedes the state, and that there is something called a “free market” that is not lock, stock, and barrel a propagandic construct of the courts, and that, therefore, the banks should own the vast majority of realty under mortgage and use their collective sovereign charter to artificially impose massive and ever-escalating costs of living on productive men and otherwise to socially engineer and underwrite the unfathomably bizarre economic distortions of c. 2024 America.

    But if you want to get really particular about it, you could say that Thanksgiving began with the English Reformation and grew into the holiday I described in North America, an ethnocultural implicit celebration by the American Anglo Protestant for the bounty he found and took in North America.

  6. Jim says:

    Here’s a real policy proposal derivative of your real-life example of Governor William Bradford, “English Puritan Separatist originally from the West Riding of Yorkshire in Northern England”, émigré to the Plymouth Colony aboard the Mayflower:

    Let there be an office whereto reasonable capable young men shall fill out and send an application form for the purpose of obtaining arable land. The land will simply be reassigned, with the stroke of a pen, from its current “owners” to those more worthy. No bank will intermediate and no mortgage will be given.

    Is this what capitalism means to you? Because it’s infinitely less corrupt than the reigning regime.

  7. Jim says:

    *whereto reasonably capable

  8. Phileas_Frogg says:

    Capitalism- A cult predicated on the fanciful notion that Private Property is God and Banker’s are his priests.

  9. Phileas_Frogg says:

    …or rather, they are his, “Chosen People?”

  10. T. Beholder says:

    Jim says:

    If every family were assigned a parcel of land today you would cry SOCIALISM or COMMUNISM or some other such nonsense because embedded deep and immutable in your ideological construct

    You seem to be arguing with your imagination. Did you win?

    But if you want to get really particular about it, you could say that Thanksgiving began with the English Reformation and grew into the holiday I described in North America, an ethnocultural implicit celebration by the American Anglo Protestant for the bounty he found and took in North America.

    Why would I say that?

    The point stands that according to the witnesses, Thanksgiving celebrated the great relief caused by end of a collectivist utopia, which per testimonies had problems now known as very characteristic to its kind.

    At some point the whole story obviously wound up distorted in a peculiar way: to bleach this part out, brush those failures off as something that “just happened”, and skip over to the last part (where teh Injuns got involved).

    Obviously, if the goal was to focus on teh Injuns as such, whether they saved the silly settlers specifically from the results of naive communism, agricultural ignorance or bad luck would be unimportant, and need no changes beyond slight trimming. Thus it seems this was the entire point, making those efforts a part of good old «Nevar Been Tried» campaign. Which is obviously not a short-term fad, and the subject is within its area of interest.

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