As Europe Seeks A Stronger Voice, Words Get in Way

Wednesday, January 5th, 2005

The European Union recently expanded from 15 countries to 25, and this has brought quite a few headaches, because the EU uses each of the 20 languages spoken by member countries. That practice that will cost it nearly $1.6 billion this year. From As Europe Seeks A Stronger Voice, Words Get in Way:

The EU’s language task is enormous — and gets tougher with the addition of each new country. At the 192-member United Nations, representatives speak in their own languages, but their words are interpreted into a core of six languages. The EU attempts something far more difficult: two-way simultaneous interpretation among all 20 of the officially recognized tongues. At the moment, that means 380 possible two-language combinations. Anticipated new members over the next several years will push the number above 500.

“Finding a translator who can translate from Finnish to Maltese right now is like finding gold dust,” says David Earnshaw, a project manager with EU translation contractor Bowne Global Solutions, a unit of New York-based Bowne & Co., a printing and document-management company.

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Phil B: “It started giving more money to the Follow Through models that had not done well.” Or, as it is known in the trade, reinforcing failure. Had those funds been spent on schools and pupils that did well, then how much better would they have succeeded? Compare and contrast the results of spending $50,000 per pupil in an inner city school and $20,000 per pupil in a less “diverse” neighbourhood. But failure must not only be reinforced but rewarded with more cash.
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Bruce: “Does it ever occur to you that maybe all these idiots are lying?” — Ed Real, whom I trust on education stuff, maybe about someone else.
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