Flour, Eggs, Sugar, Fortune

Tuesday, October 5th, 2004

You probably think that fortune cookies come from China. Not quite. Flour, Eggs, Sugar, Fortune explains:

While the beginnings of fortune cookies can be traced back to 14th-century China as a clandestine form of communication — Chinese soldiers transferred secret messages via moon cakes — the likelier origins were American. In 1918, David Jung, a noodle manufacturer in Los Angeles, handed out cookies that contained uplifting messages as a promotional gimmick. To this day the tradition persists. Golden Bowl has more than 400 distributors, selling their cookies all over the U.S., in Puerto Rico, Canada and Europe.

“In the U.S.,” says Wong, in faintly accented English, “People look for the cookie after the bill, and they ask for the cookie if they don’t get it.”

In 1995, Golden Bowl tried — and failed — to sell fortune cookies in China.

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