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	<title>Comments on: Their primary limitation is not an inability to seize the day</title>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2026/03/their-primary-limitation-is-not-an-inability-to-seize-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-3762254</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 06:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In any case, never listen to a woman purporting to speak in authority on the raising up of boys. The sensitive young white teen was born to go to war. He should be set loose upon Africa, the Middle East, India, and elsewhere with a Toyota Hilux, some automatic weaponry, and a gas and ammunition ration, provided only that consorting with the local fauna be punishable by death.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In any case, never listen to a woman purporting to speak in authority on the raising up of boys. The sensitive young white teen was born to go to war. He should be set loose upon Africa, the Middle East, India, and elsewhere with a Toyota Hilux, some automatic weaponry, and a gas and ammunition ration, provided only that consorting with the local fauna be punishable by death.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 06:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The things you know form the threads of your thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The things you know form the threads of your thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2026/03/their-primary-limitation-is-not-an-inability-to-seize-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-3762252</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 02:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Give me a minute, David, to Google “Bob Dylan”…]]></description>
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		<title>By: Anomaly UK</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2026/03/their-primary-limitation-is-not-an-inability-to-seize-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-3762250</link>
		<dc:creator>Anomaly UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 14:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of teenage boys who are incapable of learning by memorization because it is unnatural and they are not academically inclined, how many can name 11 members of their favourite sports team?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of teenage boys who are incapable of learning by memorization because it is unnatural and they are not academically inclined, how many can name 11 members of their favourite sports team?</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2026/03/their-primary-limitation-is-not-an-inability-to-seize-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-3762249</link>
		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 13:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phileas Frogg..&quot;David Starkey has been arguing for ages that memorization is a key cognitive skill that is missing from modern education. He’s not wrong&quot;...here&#039;s an analogy I came up with:

A song by Jakob Dylan includes the following lines:

Cupid, don’t draw back your bow

Sam Cooke didn’t know what I know

…note that in order to understand these two simple lines, you’d have to know several things:

1)You need to know that, in mythology, Cupid symbolizes love

2)And that Cupid’s chosen instrument is the bow and arrow

3)Also that there was a singer/songwriter named Sam Cooke

4)And that he had a song called “Cupid, draw back your bow.”

“Progressive” educators insist that students should be taught “thinking skills” as opposed to memorization, and the advent of LLMs has further driven such thinking But consider: If it’s not possible to understand a couple of lines from a popular song without knowing by heart the references to which it alludes–without memorizing them–what chance is there for understanding medieval history, or modern physics, without having a ready grasp of the topics which these disciplines reference?

And also consider: what’s important is not just what you need to know to appreciate the song. It’s what Dylan needed to know to create it in the first place. At least in theory someone who heard the song and didn’t understand the allusions could have spent 5 minutes googling and figured them out, although this approach wouldn’t be exactly conducive to aesthetic appreciation. But had Dylan not already had the reference points–Cupid, the bow and arrow, the Sam Cooke song–in his head, there’s no way he would have been able to create his own lines. The idea that he could have just “looked them up,” which educators often suggest is the way to deal with factual knowledge, would be ludicrous in this context. And it would also be ludicrous in the context of creating new ideas about history or physics. To use a computer analogy, the things you know aren’t just data–they’re part of the program.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phileas Frogg..&#8221;David Starkey has been arguing for ages that memorization is a key cognitive skill that is missing from modern education. He’s not wrong&#8221;&#8230;here&#8217;s an analogy I came up with:</p>
<p>A song by Jakob Dylan includes the following lines:</p>
<p>Cupid, don’t draw back your bow</p>
<p>Sam Cooke didn’t know what I know</p>
<p>…note that in order to understand these two simple lines, you’d have to know several things:</p>
<p>1)You need to know that, in mythology, Cupid symbolizes love</p>
<p>2)And that Cupid’s chosen instrument is the bow and arrow</p>
<p>3)Also that there was a singer/songwriter named Sam Cooke</p>
<p>4)And that he had a song called “Cupid, draw back your bow.”</p>
<p>“Progressive” educators insist that students should be taught “thinking skills” as opposed to memorization, and the advent of LLMs has further driven such thinking But consider: If it’s not possible to understand a couple of lines from a popular song without knowing by heart the references to which it alludes–without memorizing them–what chance is there for understanding medieval history, or modern physics, without having a ready grasp of the topics which these disciplines reference?</p>
<p>And also consider: what’s important is not just what you need to know to appreciate the song. It’s what Dylan needed to know to create it in the first place. At least in theory someone who heard the song and didn’t understand the allusions could have spent 5 minutes googling and figured them out, although this approach wouldn’t be exactly conducive to aesthetic appreciation. But had Dylan not already had the reference points–Cupid, the bow and arrow, the Sam Cooke song–in his head, there’s no way he would have been able to create his own lines. The idea that he could have just “looked them up,” which educators often suggest is the way to deal with factual knowledge, would be ludicrous in this context. And it would also be ludicrous in the context of creating new ideas about history or physics. To use a computer analogy, the things you know aren’t just data–they’re part of the program.</p>
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		<title>By: McChuck</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2026/03/their-primary-limitation-is-not-an-inability-to-seize-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-3762227</link>
		<dc:creator>McChuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 19:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The primary goal of higher education (which is the &quot;high&quot; in high school) was to curb the feral instincts of the youth and teach them self discipline and useful skills.  Team sports direct the violent nature inherent in young men toward (relatively) safe activities that don&#039;t (generally) tear communities apart.

These days, higher education is a taxpayer funded babysitting service for overgrown children that has a side gig of impressing Leftist indoctrination upon them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The primary goal of higher education (which is the &#8220;high&#8221; in high school) was to curb the feral instincts of the youth and teach them self discipline and useful skills.  Team sports direct the violent nature inherent in young men toward (relatively) safe activities that don&#8217;t (generally) tear communities apart.</p>
<p>These days, higher education is a taxpayer funded babysitting service for overgrown children that has a side gig of impressing Leftist indoctrination upon them.</p>
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		<title>By: Phileas Frogg</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2026/03/their-primary-limitation-is-not-an-inability-to-seize-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-3762226</link>
		<dc:creator>Phileas Frogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 18:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Starkey has been arguing for ages that memorization is a key cognitive skill that is missing from modern education. He&#039;s not wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Starkey has been arguing for ages that memorization is a key cognitive skill that is missing from modern education. He&#8217;s not wrong.</p>
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