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	<title>Comments on: A tank designed for urban terrain would have radically different design requirements than a main battle tank designed for open warfare</title>
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		<title>By: Space Nookie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Space Nookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2025 21:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any future tank will have to be manufactured in mass numbers in factories with contested supply chains, then transported to whatever shithole proxy war is ongoing where the bridges are rated for max 40 tons. It will be knocked out, recovered, and repaired multiple times before it is discarded and stripped for parts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any future tank will have to be manufactured in mass numbers in factories with contested supply chains, then transported to whatever shithole proxy war is ongoing where the bridges are rated for max 40 tons. It will be knocked out, recovered, and repaired multiple times before it is discarded and stripped for parts.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2025 19:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Main battle tanks rely primarily upon their speed and long-range firepower&quot;

Starts with an outdated assertion. When you can have precision fire of dozens of km by missile, round artillery, drones suddenly the tank finds itself as a short range weapon.

Then a falsehood, tank speed?! Land movement is always slow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Main battle tanks rely primarily upon their speed and long-range firepower&#8221;</p>
<p>Starts with an outdated assertion. When you can have precision fire of dozens of km by missile, round artillery, drones suddenly the tank finds itself as a short range weapon.</p>
<p>Then a falsehood, tank speed?! Land movement is always slow.</p>
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		<title>By: McChuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>McChuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2025 09:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Drake (Hammer&#039;s Slammers) and Keith Laumer (BOLO) were prescient.  They were both right about what sort of tanks the future might hold, and what those tanks would need to survive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Drake (Hammer&#8217;s Slammers) and Keith Laumer (BOLO) were prescient.  They were both right about what sort of tanks the future might hold, and what those tanks would need to survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 18:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Earlier today &lt;a href=&quot;https://x.com/sambendett&quot;&gt;Samuel Bendett&lt;/a&gt; cited a &lt;a href=&quot;https://x.com/sambendett/status/1984233721298555145&quot;&gt;Russian piece on lessons learned from Ukraine&lt;/a&gt;: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;The tank is the primary means of line-of-sight fire; in fact, it was designed as a protected platform for such fire It is now an easily detectable and easily hit target with an ineffective line-of-sight weapon system. As a result, the tank has lost its once-essential role as an army&#039;s primary means of breakthrough and maneuver. It is unclear what benefit a vulnerable vehicle with limited armament capabilities, approaching the cost of a fighter aircraft, will bring. As for a tank as a carrier for UAVs or over-the-horizon precision strikes, why would a tank, which is clearly excessive in terms of protection and weight, be needed as a platform?&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier today <a href="https://x.com/sambendett">Samuel Bendett</a> cited a <a href="https://x.com/sambendett/status/1984233721298555145">Russian piece on lessons learned from Ukraine</a>: </p>
<blockquote><p>The tank is the primary means of line-of-sight fire; in fact, it was designed as a protected platform for such fire It is now an easily detectable and easily hit target with an ineffective line-of-sight weapon system. As a result, the tank has lost its once-essential role as an army&#8217;s primary means of breakthrough and maneuver. It is unclear what benefit a vulnerable vehicle with limited armament capabilities, approaching the cost of a fighter aircraft, will bring. As for a tank as a carrier for UAVs or over-the-horizon precision strikes, why would a tank, which is clearly excessive in terms of protection and weight, be needed as a platform?</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: McChuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>McChuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 17:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;re not wrong, but such a tank would be hideously expensive.

We still need light, medium, and heavy armored vehicles.  What we really need is something very similar to the Finnish Patria NEMO.  120mm direct-fire capable, rifled gun-mortar.  Interdict an intersection 5 miles away, drop rounds on the other side of the building you&#039;re next to, put rounds into the windows on that building right over there, then blow up the onrushing VBIED.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re not wrong, but such a tank would be hideously expensive.</p>
<p>We still need light, medium, and heavy armored vehicles.  What we really need is something very similar to the Finnish Patria NEMO.  120mm direct-fire capable, rifled gun-mortar.  Interdict an intersection 5 miles away, drop rounds on the other side of the building you&#8217;re next to, put rounds into the windows on that building right over there, then blow up the onrushing VBIED.</p>
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