Comments on: While most students are not creative, heavy K-12 investment fertilizes society’s creative potential by giving everyone the mental tools to innovate https://www.isegoria.net/2025/04/while-most-students-are-not-creative-heavy-k-12-investment-fertilizes-societys-creative-potential-by-giving-everyone-the-mental-tools-to-innovate/ From the ancient Greek for equality in freedom of speech; an eclectic mix of thoughts, large and small Sun, 21 Jun 2026 11:02:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.1 By: T. Beholder https://www.isegoria.net/2025/04/while-most-students-are-not-creative-heavy-k-12-investment-fertilizes-societys-creative-potential-by-giving-everyone-the-mental-tools-to-innovate/comment-page-1/#comment-3757901 T. Beholder Fri, 02 May 2025 17:17:12 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52951#comment-3757901 Roo_ster says:

Most children ought to be out of school by 8th grade. And some do not benefit from that and ought to be released earlier.

That’s what Soviet school was by the end (also sucky, molding and bloating, but nowhere near so aggressively). Three stages: Junior, Middle, Senior.

Junior school did not look like anyone expected the kids to actually learn anything at all beyond basic literacy and numeracy, the rest is just some PE and excuses to keep them busy for a few hours and saddle with homework.

Middle school is the most of it, with basic physics, and what not.

Senior school was optional, mostly intended as generic rounded preparation for higher education. Those who didn’t go for it went into professional schools and would get basic professional training by the time the boys get mobilized (i.e.18).

]]> By: Roo_ster https://www.isegoria.net/2025/04/while-most-students-are-not-creative-heavy-k-12-investment-fertilizes-societys-creative-potential-by-giving-everyone-the-mental-tools-to-innovate/comment-page-1/#comment-3757900 Roo_ster Fri, 02 May 2025 16:43:00 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52951#comment-3757900 Most children ought to be out of school by 8th grade. And some do not benefit from that and ought to be released earlier.

]]> By: Jim https://www.isegoria.net/2025/04/while-most-students-are-not-creative-heavy-k-12-investment-fertilizes-societys-creative-potential-by-giving-everyone-the-mental-tools-to-innovate/comment-page-1/#comment-3757887 Jim Fri, 02 May 2025 02:03:03 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52951#comment-3757887 It is the year 2025. Are centrally planned government-sponsored carceral schooling facilities staffed by depressed unhealthy underfucked fat midwit middle-aged divorcées the best mechanism of intergenerational information transfer?

]]> By: Michael van der Riet https://www.isegoria.net/2025/04/while-most-students-are-not-creative-heavy-k-12-investment-fertilizes-societys-creative-potential-by-giving-everyone-the-mental-tools-to-innovate/comment-page-1/#comment-3757853 Michael van der Riet Thu, 01 May 2025 10:32:53 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52951#comment-3757853 Bryan Caplan, we love you like a brother, but have you ever heard of a place called Hong Kong?

]]> By: Ed Gatekeeper https://www.isegoria.net/2025/04/while-most-students-are-not-creative-heavy-k-12-investment-fertilizes-societys-creative-potential-by-giving-everyone-the-mental-tools-to-innovate/comment-page-1/#comment-3757823 Ed Gatekeeper Tue, 29 Apr 2025 12:46:13 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52951#comment-3757823 Has anyone ever thought that giving “the tools to innovate” to people who shouldn’t have them might produce terrible effects on society? Actually, a very inelegant way of trying to allocate resources — by brute-forcing them — and the disgraceful results show.

]]> By: David Foster https://www.isegoria.net/2025/04/while-most-students-are-not-creative-heavy-k-12-investment-fertilizes-societys-creative-potential-by-giving-everyone-the-mental-tools-to-innovate/comment-page-1/#comment-3757812 David Foster Tue, 29 Apr 2025 01:46:21 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52951#comment-3757812 Not safe to assume that *spending on education* and *actual education* are correlated very well.

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