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	<title>Comments on: A fixed-wing airplane that delivers the access of a helicopter with 100 times less noise, 70% lower cost, improved safety, and dramatically reduced emissions</title>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2025/03/a-fixed-wing-airplane-that-delivers-the-access-of-a-helicopter-with-100-times-less-noise-70-lower-cost-improved-safety-and-dramatically-reduced-emissions/comment-page-1/#comment-3752200</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 22:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gaikokumaniakku, I had that piece open in another tab. Great minds…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaikokumaniakku, I had that piece open in another tab. Great minds…</p>
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		<title>By: Gaikokumaniakku</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2025/03/a-fixed-wing-airplane-that-delivers-the-access-of-a-helicopter-with-100-times-less-noise-70-lower-cost-improved-safety-and-dramatically-reduced-emissions/comment-page-1/#comment-3752056</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaikokumaniakku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 08:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[https://interestingengineering.com/military/us-marines-seagliders-for-rescue-ops


Tangentially relevant]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://interestingengineering.com/military/us-marines-seagliders-for-rescue-ops" >https://interestingengineering.com/military/us-marines-seagliders-for-rescue-ops</a></p>
<p>Tangentially relevant</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2025/03/a-fixed-wing-airplane-that-delivers-the-access-of-a-helicopter-with-100-times-less-noise-70-lower-cost-improved-safety-and-dramatically-reduced-emissions/comment-page-1/#comment-3751542</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2025 03:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Gaik. Cyclotech looks really cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Gaik. Cyclotech looks really cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaikokumaniakku</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2025/03/a-fixed-wing-airplane-that-delivers-the-access-of-a-helicopter-with-100-times-less-noise-70-lower-cost-improved-safety-and-dramatically-reduced-emissions/comment-page-1/#comment-3751455</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaikokumaniakku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2025 21:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am still holding out hope — and perhaps it is foolish, uninformed hope — for cycloidal propellers in aircraft like this one:

https://www.cyclotech.at/cyclotech-presents-first-air-car-with-cyclorotors/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still holding out hope — and perhaps it is foolish, uninformed hope — for cycloidal propellers in aircraft like this one:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.cyclotech.at/cyclotech-presents-first-air-car-with-cyclorotors/" >https://www.cyclotech.at/cyclotech-presents-first-air-car-with-cyclorotors/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2025/03/a-fixed-wing-airplane-that-delivers-the-access-of-a-helicopter-with-100-times-less-noise-70-lower-cost-improved-safety-and-dramatically-reduced-emissions/comment-page-1/#comment-3751422</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2025 18:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This &lt;a href=&quot;https://youtu.be/LjxBllMhtmc?si=xJQ8d7ETtSu6BfLz&quot;&gt;matter-of-fact video&lt;/a&gt; with the lead engineer is more reassuring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This <a href="https://youtu.be/LjxBllMhtmc?si=xJQ8d7ETtSu6BfLz">matter-of-fact video</a> with the lead engineer is more reassuring.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2025/03/a-fixed-wing-airplane-that-delivers-the-access-of-a-helicopter-with-100-times-less-noise-70-lower-cost-improved-safety-and-dramatically-reduced-emissions/comment-page-1/#comment-3751407</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2025 16:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hybrid-electric propulsion is destined to be a paradigmatic technological breakthrough for GA (General Aviation). The fundamental problem is that of making it work.

After watching a few minutes of the CEO, Marc Allen, speak, I&#039;m deeply skeptical of the success of Electra because he isn&#039;t nearly autistic enough to make something technical like this work. Furthermore, (1) the man is some sort of Middle Easterner or something, (2) he was formerly a senior executive at Boeing, and, most importantly, (3) he is a lawyer. Other problematic affiliations and blaring negative signals include membership of the Council on Foreign Relations and board chairmanship of a human-trafficking NGO.

Personally, if I wanted to launder money, I&#039;d do something low-profile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hybrid-electric propulsion is destined to be a paradigmatic technological breakthrough for GA (General Aviation). The fundamental problem is that of making it work.</p>
<p>After watching a few minutes of the CEO, Marc Allen, speak, I&#8217;m deeply skeptical of the success of Electra because he isn&#8217;t nearly autistic enough to make something technical like this work. Furthermore, (1) the man is some sort of Middle Easterner or something, (2) he was formerly a senior executive at Boeing, and, most importantly, (3) he is a lawyer. Other problematic affiliations and blaring negative signals include membership of the Council on Foreign Relations and board chairmanship of a human-trafficking NGO.</p>
<p>Personally, if I wanted to launder money, I&#8217;d do something low-profile.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2025 14:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps “hybrid-electric propulsion” needs &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.electra.aero/technology&quot;&gt;spelling out&lt;/a&gt;: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Our hybrid-electric propulsion system uses a combination of a turbogenerator and battery packs to power the aircraft&#039;s electric motors. The turbogenerator is sized for cruise, while the battery boosts power for takeoff and landing. This way, the turbogenerator can be small and always operates at its most efficient operating point.

This reduces fuel burn and lowers maintenance cost. Operators can choose to charge the battery in flight via the turbogenerator or re-charge on the ground where charging infrastructure is available. However, charging infrastructure is not required.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Using electricity means it can use many, small, responsive motors: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Our Ultra Short aircraft uses eight electric motors placed along the leading edge of the wing, resulting in a dramatic improvement in aerodynamic performance. This innovative design enables our aircraft to achieve ultra-short takeoff performance and maintain a low noise footprint. Coupled with our hybrid-electric propulsion system, the Ultra Short consumes significantly less fuel compared to conventional aircraft. Fly-by-wire flight controls ensure precise landings, even in tight spaces.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps “hybrid-electric propulsion” needs <a href="https://www.electra.aero/technology">spelling out</a>: </p>
<blockquote><p>Our hybrid-electric propulsion system uses a combination of a turbogenerator and battery packs to power the aircraft&#8217;s electric motors. The turbogenerator is sized for cruise, while the battery boosts power for takeoff and landing. This way, the turbogenerator can be small and always operates at its most efficient operating point.</p>
<p>This reduces fuel burn and lowers maintenance cost. Operators can choose to charge the battery in flight via the turbogenerator or re-charge on the ground where charging infrastructure is available. However, charging infrastructure is not required.</p></blockquote>
<p>Using electricity means it can use many, small, responsive motors: </p>
<blockquote><p>Our Ultra Short aircraft uses eight electric motors placed along the leading edge of the wing, resulting in a dramatic improvement in aerodynamic performance. This innovative design enables our aircraft to achieve ultra-short takeoff performance and maintain a low noise footprint. Coupled with our hybrid-electric propulsion system, the Ultra Short consumes significantly less fuel compared to conventional aircraft. Fly-by-wire flight controls ensure precise landings, even in tight spaces.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: McChuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>McChuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The propellers drive wind over the wings, increasing lift.  Just like they did for WWII bombers.  The lift can even be increased by the use of flaps!

Wow, what a new innovation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The propellers drive wind over the wings, increasing lift.  Just like they did for WWII bombers.  The lift can even be increased by the use of flaps!</p>
<p>Wow, what a new innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Riet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael van der Riet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best batteries have about one tenth the energy density of avgas. Every ton of battery is nine hundred kilograms less payload. This disadvantage is artfully sidestepped by using a different energy storage measure. We can ignore the lessening mass of avgas over a flight, as it is the take-off weight that matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best batteries have about one tenth the energy density of avgas. Every ton of battery is nine hundred kilograms less payload. This disadvantage is artfully sidestepped by using a different energy storage measure. We can ignore the lessening mass of avgas over a flight, as it is the take-off weight that matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Dinodoxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dinodoxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It sounds like this is something like the diesel-electric drive train that has been used on trains for half a century .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like this is something like the diesel-electric drive train that has been used on trains for half a century .</p>
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