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	<title>Comments on: He also thinks that current liberal democracy contains the seeds of its own destruction</title>
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		<title>By: T. Beholder</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2024/12/he-also-thinks-that-current-liberal-democracy-contains-the-seeds-of-its-own-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-3730071</link>
		<dc:creator>T. Beholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2024 23:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VXXC says: &lt;blockquote&gt;The Guardian can update from Yarvin’s substack instead of mixing and mashing his ideas from 15 years ago with the present. It can.
But it’s so much fun to cut and paste a boogeyman to “our democracy.”&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
What would they do, make an actual effort, and risk catching thoughtcrime cooties?

Most of that crowd are basically C students, cribbing from each other if at all possible. That’s why they are being replaced by LLM parrot-ware.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VXXC says:<br />
<blockquote>The Guardian can update from Yarvin’s substack instead of mixing and mashing his ideas from 15 years ago with the present. It can.<br />
But it’s so much fun to cut and paste a boogeyman to “our democracy.”</p></blockquote>
<p>What would they do, make an actual effort, and risk catching thoughtcrime cooties?</p>
<p>Most of that crowd are basically C students, cribbing from each other if at all possible. That’s why they are being replaced by LLM parrot-ware.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXXC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2024 00:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yarvin&#039;s current ideas are a startup CEO President such as Lincoln or FDR.  Any person who can read Article 2 of the Constitution could get the strangest idea that the President is in charge of the Executive Branch, instead of the current situation of other way round, with the Executive Branch manipulating a figurehead POTUS, really the situation since Truman, but Harry Truman didn&#039;t shit himself in public.  

The Guardian can update from Yarvin&#039;s substack instead of mixing and mashing his ideas from 15 years ago with the present. It can.
 
But it&#039;s so much fun to cut and paste a boogeyman to &quot;our democracy.&quot;

Yarvin&#039;s current target for some months BTW is Congress, not seizing the throne. That&#039;s perfectly in line with the Constitution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yarvin&#8217;s current ideas are a startup CEO President such as Lincoln or FDR.  Any person who can read Article 2 of the Constitution could get the strangest idea that the President is in charge of the Executive Branch, instead of the current situation of other way round, with the Executive Branch manipulating a figurehead POTUS, really the situation since Truman, but Harry Truman didn&#8217;t shit himself in public.  </p>
<p>The Guardian can update from Yarvin&#8217;s substack instead of mixing and mashing his ideas from 15 years ago with the present. It can.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s so much fun to cut and paste a boogeyman to &#8220;our democracy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yarvin&#8217;s current target for some months BTW is Congress, not seizing the throne. That&#8217;s perfectly in line with the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Beholder</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. Beholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 11:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[McChuck says: &lt;blockquote&gt;2024 – Ukraine cancels elections, bans opposition parties, murders journalists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Eh, the Team Orange Revolution was always a petty junta. They arrested opposition etc at back in 2021. See for example this bag of dirt on them: https://im1776.com/2022/05/27/servant-of-the-corrupt/
But other than that, yes. As theocratic forces lost their edge and failed at bullshitting more competent people into cooperation, things went to the crapper beyond recovery, all over the Circus World.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McChuck says:<br />
<blockquote>2024 – Ukraine cancels elections, bans opposition parties, murders journalists.</p></blockquote>
<p>Eh, the Team Orange Revolution was always a petty junta. They arrested opposition etc at back in 2021. See for example this bag of dirt on them: <a href="https://im1776.com/2022/05/27/servant-of-the-corrupt/" >https://im1776.com/2022/05/27/servant-of-the-corrupt/</a><br />
But other than that, yes. As theocratic forces lost their edge and failed at bullshitting more competent people into cooperation, things went to the crapper beyond recovery, all over the Circus World.</p>
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		<title>By: McChuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>McChuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 10:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;liberal democracies&quot; are nothing of the sort.  They are extremely illiberal by classical standards, and they are notoriously undemocratic.  

2020 - USA stolen election.  
2024 - Georgia ignored election.
2024 - Romania annulled election.
2024 - France government failure.
2024 - Germany government failure after partial ban on opposition parties.
2024 - Ukraine cancels elections, bans opposition parties, murders journalists.

Everywhere in &quot;liberal democracy&quot;, the ruling elite are replacing the native people with hostile foreigners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;liberal democracies&#8221; are nothing of the sort.  They are extremely illiberal by classical standards, and they are notoriously undemocratic.  </p>
<p>2020 &#8211; USA stolen election.<br />
2024 &#8211; Georgia ignored election.<br />
2024 &#8211; Romania annulled election.<br />
2024 &#8211; France government failure.<br />
2024 &#8211; Germany government failure after partial ban on opposition parties.<br />
2024 &#8211; Ukraine cancels elections, bans opposition parties, murders journalists.</p>
<p>Everywhere in &#8220;liberal democracy&#8221;, the ruling elite are replacing the native people with hostile foreigners.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Beholder</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. Beholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 08:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aww, it’s so nice the Good and Great deigned to notice something that was hot stuff 16 years ago. LMAO. =)

Anyhow, this train have sailed, did it not? Trump is not CEO.

We have a good indicator already. Trump’s idea was to build Space Force, i.e. reboot NASA on a fresh command chain. Now he can only “reform” it, which is very likely to be a waste of time and efforts useless beyond decorative level. Just as Moldbug pointed out, yes.

Thus, most likely hypothesis: Trump was dragged back to prevent the consequences of mismanagement from rolling all the way to various catastrophic results already in sight… but the backseat drivers won’t let him do almost anything useful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww, it’s so nice the Good and Great deigned to notice something that was hot stuff 16 years ago. LMAO. =)</p>
<p>Anyhow, this train have sailed, did it not? Trump is not CEO.</p>
<p>We have a good indicator already. Trump’s idea was to build Space Force, i.e. reboot NASA on a fresh command chain. Now he can only “reform” it, which is very likely to be a waste of time and efforts useless beyond decorative level. Just as Moldbug pointed out, yes.</p>
<p>Thus, most likely hypothesis: Trump was dragged back to prevent the consequences of mismanagement from rolling all the way to various catastrophic results already in sight… but the backseat drivers won’t let him do almost anything useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucklucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucklucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 03:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without liberal democracy it is impossible to have individuals. Everyone would need to prove allegiance to the regime.

Trump would not have existed politically if the Democrats had a institutionalised(by law) political oligarchy in USA. Look at Iran Islamic Republic. It is a Islamic oligarchy, you can&#039;t go outside it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without liberal democracy it is impossible to have individuals. Everyone would need to prove allegiance to the regime.</p>
<p>Trump would not have existed politically if the Democrats had a institutionalised(by law) political oligarchy in USA. Look at Iran Islamic Republic. It is a Islamic oligarchy, you can&#8217;t go outside it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucklucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucklucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 02:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every human organisation contains the seeds of its own destruction. 

Some with less barriers to that than others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every human organisation contains the seeds of its own destruction. </p>
<p>Some with less barriers to that than others.</p>
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