Comments on: The vessel is the first New Zealand naval vessel to be unintentionally sunk since World War II and the first to be lost in peacetime https://www.isegoria.net/2024/10/the-vessel-is-the-first-new-zealand-naval-vessel-to-be-unintentionally-sunk-since-world-war-ii-and-the-first-to-be-lost-in-peacetime/ From the ancient Greek for equality in freedom of speech; an eclectic mix of thoughts, large and small Tue, 09 Jun 2026 23:12:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.1 By: James James https://www.isegoria.net/2024/10/the-vessel-is-the-first-new-zealand-naval-vessel-to-be-unintentionally-sunk-since-world-war-ii-and-the-first-to-be-lost-in-peacetime/comment-page-1/#comment-3714807 James James Fri, 11 Oct 2024 06:43:44 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52060#comment-3714807 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/08/hmnzs-manawanui-sinking-royal-us-navy-ship-reef-samoa/

]]> By: T. Beholder https://www.isegoria.net/2024/10/the-vessel-is-the-first-new-zealand-naval-vessel-to-be-unintentionally-sunk-since-world-war-ii-and-the-first-to-be-lost-in-peacetime/comment-page-1/#comment-3714758 T. Beholder Thu, 10 Oct 2024 13:51:51 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52060#comment-3714758

It is being said here in NZ that the ship was trialling biofuel (Clean and Green and all that), so maybe that was a contributing factor.

As comments in thedailyblog.co.nz mentioned, Manawanui (nee Edda Fonn) had redundant 4× generators and one weaker emergency generator. And all sorts of nice hardware for the worst sea conditions ever.

https://www.ship-technology.com/projects/edda/

While theoretically they could have been retarded enough to run a trial on all 4 at once…

Rear Admiral Garin Golding told Morning Report there were different types of fuel on board the ship, the largest being 950 tonnes of automotive gas oil.

https://pina.com.fj/2024/10/08/nearly-1000-tonnes-of-diesel-on-sunken-nz-navy-ship-manawanui/

…it looks like they weren’t.

So this “power failure” still looks like an excuse cribbed from a previous incident. After all, once the electric parts are burned out and submerged for a while, who can tell?

]]> By: Phil B. https://www.isegoria.net/2024/10/the-vessel-is-the-first-new-zealand-naval-vessel-to-be-unintentionally-sunk-since-world-war-ii-and-the-first-to-be-lost-in-peacetime/comment-page-1/#comment-3714673 Phil B. Tue, 08 Oct 2024 20:46:57 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52060#comment-3714673 An analysis of the voyage and pointing out some anomalies and odd occurrences is here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR85gqVwbWQ

The Captain, being a lesbian and a woman (obviously), is a DEI hire, so it will be hushed up, and she’ll be promoted for heroically saving the lives of her crew.

It is being said here in NZ that the ship was trialling biofuel (Clean and Green and all that), so maybe that was a contributing factor.

]]> By: Michael van der Riet https://www.isegoria.net/2024/10/the-vessel-is-the-first-new-zealand-naval-vessel-to-be-unintentionally-sunk-since-world-war-ii-and-the-first-to-be-lost-in-peacetime/comment-page-1/#comment-3714628 Michael van der Riet Tue, 08 Oct 2024 14:47:01 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52060#comment-3714628 https://babylonbee.com/news/lesbian-captain-crashes-after-insisting-ships-dont-have-to-go-into-ports

]]> By: T. Beholder https://www.isegoria.net/2024/10/the-vessel-is-the-first-new-zealand-naval-vessel-to-be-unintentionally-sunk-since-world-war-ii-and-the-first-to-be-lost-in-peacetime/comment-page-1/#comment-3714623 T. Beholder Tue, 08 Oct 2024 14:17:18 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52060#comment-3714623 This spilled something that smells funny, and it’s (mostly) not oil.
They said in the presser the ship was not doing a survey task at the time, however the “Initial Statement” put out by NZDF on Saturday night (05/10/2024) said ” The incident occurred on Saturday evening while conducting a reef survey.” [...] discrepancies between the times of when the ship was abandoned.

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Collins has been saying yesterday on various media interviews that a “power failure” occurred and has put that out as a probable reason for the grounding. As everyone has replied: then drop anchor!

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The silence around details such as this do not inspire confidence

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It is very murky. And no matter what the cause was 100% preventable.

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As for the inquiry, I suspect it may be prone to an arse-covering the likes of which we have come to expect. An incident with HMNZS Te Kaha smacking into the Kauri Point armament depot wharf earlier this year is a case study.

https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2024/10/08/hmnzs-manawanui-new-zealands-reputation-sunk-with-her/

]]> By: Bob Sykes https://www.isegoria.net/2024/10/the-vessel-is-the-first-new-zealand-naval-vessel-to-be-unintentionally-sunk-since-world-war-ii-and-the-first-to-be-lost-in-peacetime/comment-page-1/#comment-3714614 Bob Sykes Tue, 08 Oct 2024 12:58:55 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52060#comment-3714614 All of the ship’s officers are fat women.

]]> By: Handle https://www.isegoria.net/2024/10/the-vessel-is-the-first-new-zealand-naval-vessel-to-be-unintentionally-sunk-since-world-war-ii-and-the-first-to-be-lost-in-peacetime/comment-page-1/#comment-3714602 Handle Tue, 08 Oct 2024 10:42:49 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52060#comment-3714602 The cargo ship which rammed and took out the Key bridge in Baltimore also lost power, but reportedly its electrical systems had been acting up for a while.

]]> By: Doc Love https://www.isegoria.net/2024/10/the-vessel-is-the-first-new-zealand-naval-vessel-to-be-unintentionally-sunk-since-world-war-ii-and-the-first-to-be-lost-in-peacetime/comment-page-1/#comment-3714588 Doc Love Tue, 08 Oct 2024 03:56:28 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52060#comment-3714588 It is amazing no one got permanently mutilated, maimed or killed, and thank God for that.

]]> By: VXXC https://www.isegoria.net/2024/10/the-vessel-is-the-first-new-zealand-naval-vessel-to-be-unintentionally-sunk-since-world-war-ii-and-the-first-to-be-lost-in-peacetime/comment-page-1/#comment-3714554 VXXC Mon, 07 Oct 2024 20:14:46 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=52060#comment-3714554 “The specialist dive and hydrographic vessel lost power and ran aground on Saturday evening while conducting a reef survey one nautical mile off the southern coast of the Samoan island of Upolu.”

Lost Power? I’m not a sailor or ship power engineer. WTF lost power? My house has generator backup, along with triple internet and if necessary, a wood stove for heat.

How are these ships losing power? Other than yes we get it…yes..but why are these ships losing power?

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