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	<title>Comments on: President Viktor Yanukovych of Ukraine tried to play both sides</title>
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		<title>By: T. Beholder</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. Beholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2024 10:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spinners gonna spin. But note that he already worked from the assumption that one way or another all this Orange Revolution thing will go down soon-ish, and then it will be time for advice from less excitable people («A generous view», etc).

As to the double-dealing that ended poorly… I wonder how did this look in traditionally double-dealing Turkey?

On NATO expansion assurances: https://web.archive.org/web/20210304062516/nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spinners gonna spin. But note that he already worked from the assumption that one way or another all this Orange Revolution thing will go down soon-ish, and then it will be time for advice from less excitable people («A generous view», etc).</p>
<p>As to the double-dealing that ended poorly… I wonder how did this look in traditionally double-dealing Turkey?</p>
<p>On NATO expansion assurances: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210304062516/nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early" >https://web.archive.org/web/20210304062516/nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sykes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Sykes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yanukovych was the legitimate, democratically elected president of Ukraine. He won every oblast east of the Dneiper and Crimea by majorities of 60 to 90%. The coup that overthrew him, and that installed current Banderite junta was orchestrated and led by the US. That is what Nuland bragged.

Since its installation, the junta has conducted a vicious terror campaign against ethnic Russians and the Ukrainian Orthodox church that is aligned with the Russian Orthodox church. They have arrested priests, confiscated church property, and killed thousands of civilians in the Donbas.

All opposition parties have been suppressed, their leaders imprisoned, and their papers, radio and tv stations closed. Ukraine is now a full blown fascist police state.

The US has worked to keep the war going, and has forced the junta to reject all peace agreements, Minsk I and II and the 2022 Istanbul agreement. Every one of those agreements would have kept the Donbas in Ukraine, but the US wants war.

Russia slowly grinding down the proxy NATO army, and steadily gaining territory. Eventually Russia will win; they are the good guys. What they will do with the defeated Ukraine/NATO remains to be seen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yanukovych was the legitimate, democratically elected president of Ukraine. He won every oblast east of the Dneiper and Crimea by majorities of 60 to 90%. The coup that overthrew him, and that installed current Banderite junta was orchestrated and led by the US. That is what Nuland bragged.</p>
<p>Since its installation, the junta has conducted a vicious terror campaign against ethnic Russians and the Ukrainian Orthodox church that is aligned with the Russian Orthodox church. They have arrested priests, confiscated church property, and killed thousands of civilians in the Donbas.</p>
<p>All opposition parties have been suppressed, their leaders imprisoned, and their papers, radio and tv stations closed. Ukraine is now a full blown fascist police state.</p>
<p>The US has worked to keep the war going, and has forced the junta to reject all peace agreements, Minsk I and II and the 2022 Istanbul agreement. Every one of those agreements would have kept the Donbas in Ukraine, but the US wants war.</p>
<p>Russia slowly grinding down the proxy NATO army, and steadily gaining territory. Eventually Russia will win; they are the good guys. What they will do with the defeated Ukraine/NATO remains to be seen.</p>
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