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	<title>Comments on: GPS jamming looks more like a weapon for a swarm attacking an urban target rather than as a way of stopping a swarm</title>
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		<title>By: T. Beholder</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2024 19:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No silver bullet, but this can weaken fancy turn-of-the-century munitions for TV wars in a wide area. If the carrying swarm flies high enough.

&lt;blockquote&gt;There is also inertial navigation, which has improved and become more cost-effective. I believe most large airliners now carry inertial systems which swing into action automatically when the GPS signal is lost &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, but the cheap UAV have much less mass, much worse intrinsic stability and much worse vibro-insulation than an airliner, or even a cruising missile.

Combined guidance systems can stay mostly functional when RC and satellite positioning are down, sure… but they are more expensive, which is why those vulnerable shortcuts are used at all.

And most of the rest has other vulnerabilities. I mean, if a laser gyroscope IS the only instrument necessary, you can’t fool it, but that’s not going to be the common situation for precise munitions. Flares are still a thing, and likewise you can use decoys to lead an anti-radar missile by the nose, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No silver bullet, but this can weaken fancy turn-of-the-century munitions for TV wars in a wide area. If the carrying swarm flies high enough.</p>
<blockquote><p>There is also inertial navigation, which has improved and become more cost-effective. I believe most large airliners now carry inertial systems which swing into action automatically when the GPS signal is lost </p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but the cheap UAV have much less mass, much worse intrinsic stability and much worse vibro-insulation than an airliner, or even a cruising missile.</p>
<p>Combined guidance systems can stay mostly functional when RC and satellite positioning are down, sure… but they are more expensive, which is why those vulnerable shortcuts are used at all.</p>
<p>And most of the rest has other vulnerabilities. I mean, if a laser gyroscope IS the only instrument necessary, you can’t fool it, but that’s not going to be the common situation for precise munitions. Flares are still a thing, and likewise you can use decoys to lead an anti-radar missile by the nose, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2024 00:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is also inertial navigation, which has improved and become more cost-effective. I believe most large airliners now carry inertial systems which swing into action automatically when the GPS signal is lost  Not sure how long they are good for before drift interferes excessively with accuracy, but have heard that it is at least a few hours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also inertial navigation, which has improved and become more cost-effective. I believe most large airliners now carry inertial systems which swing into action automatically when the GPS signal is lost  Not sure how long they are good for before drift interferes excessively with accuracy, but have heard that it is at least a few hours.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2024 16:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For over 60 years the most sophisticated missiles have been able to perform automated celestial navigation with sensors able to see the stars through clouds and smoke even in the daytime and with enough precision to geolocate and correct course / drift of inertial-systems on the fly.  A lot of the best of these and other thermal sensors have been stubbornly expensive, resource intensive, or needing cryogenic conditions for a long time, seems overdue for disruption especially with the utility of being able to add them economically to guided-armament / drone capability]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For over 60 years the most sophisticated missiles have been able to perform automated celestial navigation with sensors able to see the stars through clouds and smoke even in the daytime and with enough precision to geolocate and correct course / drift of inertial-systems on the fly.  A lot of the best of these and other thermal sensors have been stubbornly expensive, resource intensive, or needing cryogenic conditions for a long time, seems overdue for disruption especially with the utility of being able to add them economically to guided-armament / drone capability</p>
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