Comments on: Their inventors were not scientists

By: Ceck

Ceck — Sun, 19 Nov 2023 22:53:49 +0000

This is really an excellent and thought-provoking article. From my first quick skim, it seems to deal with a very long span of centuries — at least the thirteenth to sixteenth centuries. It seems to be dealing with the long, slow improvement of math and measurement prior to the *first* Industrial Revolution, which started in the mid-eighteenth century.

Within that 13th-to-16th-century period, exploration was very slow and limited. I don’t think the science of that period would be recognizable to people educated in 20th-century paradigms of science. It’s difficult to debate where to draw the boundary of “science.” Aristotle, to my mind, was not doing “science,” but reasonable scholars could disagree with me on that. Perhaps after I have gone through the article in detail I might be able to engage more usefully with issues in thermodynamics and celestial navigation.

Thanks very much for posting this link!

By: David Foster

David Foster — Sat, 18 Nov 2023 22:28:32 +0000

Exploration and trade were highly dependent on celestial navigation, which was in turn dependent of accurate prediction of the paths of stars, planets, the moon, and the sun…don’t know if you’d call that science or pure math, but seems to me it partakes of both.

By: Bomag

Bomag — Sat, 18 Nov 2023 14:19:53 +0000

Seems like a distinction without a difference.

Their “calculating paradigm” maps to the development of science in general.

By: Bob Sykes

Bob Sykes — Fri, 17 Nov 2023 13:59:37 +0000

One of the motivations for the development of thermodynamics was the existence of successful steam engines.