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	<title>Comments on: One option is to design carriers without complex systems</title>
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		<title>By: Shadeburst</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2023/06/one-option-is-to-design-carriers-without-complex-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-3610509</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadeburst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 06:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a special term for an aircraft carrier with no complex systems. It is called &quot;sunk.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a special term for an aircraft carrier with no complex systems. It is called &#8220;sunk.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: W2</title>
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		<dc:creator>W2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 04:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Imagine that they could build them cheaply: that would greatly reduce opportunities for porkbarreling and graft, so it&#039;s terribly counterproductive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine that they could build them cheaply: that would greatly reduce opportunities for porkbarreling and graft, so it&#8217;s terribly counterproductive.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXXC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 02:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any war with a nuclear power touching their &#039;shores&#039; is nuclear war. 

The rest is fantasy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any war with a nuclear power touching their &#8216;shores&#8217; is nuclear war. </p>
<p>The rest is fantasy.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 07:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This author seems to think that sailors are cheaper than ship systems, which isn&#039;t the case today and definitely won&#039;t be the case when you look at the re-enlistment bonuses you&#039;d need once you tell them they&#039;ll be eating MREs and shitting in chemical toilets for their whole tour. This guy has no idea what he&#039;s talking about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This author seems to think that sailors are cheaper than ship systems, which isn&#8217;t the case today and definitely won&#8217;t be the case when you look at the re-enlistment bonuses you&#8217;d need once you tell them they&#8217;ll be eating MREs and shitting in chemical toilets for their whole tour. This guy has no idea what he&#8217;s talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Longmuir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Longmuir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 01:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This &quot;low cost carrier&quot; concept is just silly.  

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The design could end up near ~$1 billion with rapid development and construction times once the Navy commissions a suitable dry dock.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

How much would a dry dock more than half a mile long cost?  Just as importantly, how long would it take to get the permits to build the dock, and to fight off all the lawsuits?  Would the dry dock gates &amp; pumps have to be bought from China -- because the increasingly de-industrialized US probably no longer has that physical capability?

And once operational and after crossing half the world to take war to China&#039;s shores -- (&lt;i&gt;Why?  China is not threatening US shores&lt;/i&gt;) -- the vessel would be a giant slow-maneuvering target for stealthy Chinese submarines.

Perhaps it would be wiser to Give Peace A Chance instead of treating everyone else in the world as an enemy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;low cost carrier&#8221; concept is just silly.  </p>
<p><i>&#8220;The design could end up near ~$1 billion with rapid development and construction times once the Navy commissions a suitable dry dock.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>How much would a dry dock more than half a mile long cost?  Just as importantly, how long would it take to get the permits to build the dock, and to fight off all the lawsuits?  Would the dry dock gates &amp; pumps have to be bought from China &#8212; because the increasingly de-industrialized US probably no longer has that physical capability?</p>
<p>And once operational and after crossing half the world to take war to China&#8217;s shores &#8212; (<i>Why?  China is not threatening US shores</i>) &#8212; the vessel would be a giant slow-maneuvering target for stealthy Chinese submarines.</p>
<p>Perhaps it would be wiser to Give Peace A Chance instead of treating everyone else in the world as an enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2023 23:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can’t have a manned warship without kitchen or plumbing. It isn’t possible and don’t bother. Off-site laundry is negotiable.

I indorse assumptions of near-omniscient satellite coverage and -omnipresent AI, and the prospect of blotting out the sun with mortars and lead.

The proper vehicle, however, is not the aircraft carrier, but the battleship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can’t have a manned warship without kitchen or plumbing. It isn’t possible and don’t bother. Off-site laundry is negotiable.</p>
<p>I indorse assumptions of near-omniscient satellite coverage and -omnipresent AI, and the prospect of blotting out the sun with mortars and lead.</p>
<p>The proper vehicle, however, is not the aircraft carrier, but the battleship.</p>
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