Comments on: There is no greater counterargument to a system than to see it destroy itself https://www.isegoria.net/2023/02/there-is-no-greater-counterargument-to-a-system-than-to-see-it-destroy-itself/ From the ancient Greek for equality in freedom of speech; an eclectic mix of thoughts, large and small Thu, 04 Jun 2026 12:05:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.1 By: Pseudo-Chrysostom https://www.isegoria.net/2023/02/there-is-no-greater-counterargument-to-a-system-than-to-see-it-destroy-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-3593039 Pseudo-Chrysostom Fri, 03 Mar 2023 20:31:06 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=49671#comment-3593039 Mott and Bailey. Different senses of the word ‘utilitarianism’ are purposefully conflated using the same word in different ways with respect to different objects by sophists upstream, and inadvertently conflated by useful idiots down stream.

Much like discursiveness around other things like ‘psychological egoism’, there is a trivial and nigh tautological sense of the word that is invoked by the sophist when his tactic(s) come under criticism (eg, ‘everyone does something because at least some part of them judges it to have greater value’, ‘everyone does something because at least some part of them is gratified by so doing’, et cetera et cetera), and once the storm passes they go back to an other more particular desired sense of the word in action (‘the greatest good for the greatest number means it is my solemn duty to assume power as Party Commissar and appropriate all your capital and enact totalising managerial intermediation of all aspects of all human existence and also kill you – for the sake of greater numbers of random mysterymeat XYZ somewhere else on the rock, of course’).

]]> By: Michael van der Riet https://www.isegoria.net/2023/02/there-is-no-greater-counterargument-to-a-system-than-to-see-it-destroy-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-3593022 Michael van der Riet Fri, 03 Mar 2023 12:40:53 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=49671#comment-3593022 Dear P-C, utilitarianism is the default human mindset. In fact it’s the default life strategy of every living creature.

]]> By: Pseudo-Chrysostom https://www.isegoria.net/2023/02/there-is-no-greater-counterargument-to-a-system-than-to-see-it-destroy-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-3592948 Pseudo-Chrysostom Thu, 02 Mar 2023 04:21:00 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=49671#comment-3592948 Wireheading is a perfect meta-level rebuttal to utilitarianism and other forms of nihlistic cockroach philosophy; the clades vulnerable to the psyop will remove themselves from the competition, and ontologically superior forms of life will proliferate in their stead.

]]> By: Jim https://www.isegoria.net/2023/02/there-is-no-greater-counterargument-to-a-system-than-to-see-it-destroy-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-3588818 Jim Sat, 11 Feb 2023 19:40:16 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=49671#comment-3588818 Reading books makes you better at reading books.

Watching TV makes you better at watching TV.

Watching infinity five-second context-free video clips of fertile-aged women doing increasingly spastic “dances” makes you better at watching infinity five-second context-free video clips of fertile-aged women doing increasingly spastic “dances”.

Fortunately artificial intelligence is coming along just in time to do our thinking for us.

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