Comments on: Man is born polygamous yet everywhere he is monogamous

By: Jim

Jim — Fri, 03 Mar 2023 21:45:10 +0000

Michael van der Riet: “Husband of last resort.”

By: Michael van der Riet

Michael van der Riet — Fri, 03 Mar 2023 12:30:24 +0000

Polygamy exists for a very practical reason: a shortage of men. In warlike nations, historically men were getting killed at a rapid rate. To the wife this meant disaster: she had no property rights whatsoever and could be chucked out of her house together with her children, by the husband’s family as rightful heirs. Having no means of support the wife and children would starve. Therefore a charitable man with an existing wife might offer marriage to the widow, giving her a home and status in society. A very charitable man might look after several wives. In King David’s Israel, men would be reluctant to go into battle knowing that their death meant death to their wives and children too. David became the husband of last resort and married many war widows. Polygamy is mostly found in fairly primitive societies where men are being killed often.

By: Isegoria

Isegoria — Mon, 27 Feb 2023 00:40:40 +0000

Clark does a wonderful job explaining the Malthusian Trap that pre-modern societies face.

By: Esp

Esp — Sun, 26 Feb 2023 12:19:03 +0000

Gregory Clark, with his A Farewell to Alms wrote extensevely about that. Also, hbdchick wrote about that too, covering manorialism, Austrasia, the Hajnal line and ancient Greek and Roman practices, etc, much before some "Harvardian" Joseph.

By: Doclove

Doclove — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 13:12:39 +0000

It was the ancient Greeks and Ancient Romans( and other Italic peoples) who introduced monogamy when they were pagans and before they became Christian. The Athenians as well as most Ancient Greeks severely restricted women being outside the home and away from their husbands or fathers or other custodial male members of their family and Sparta was one of the few exceptions in Classical and Hellenistic Greece. The early and mid Republic eras of Rome had a concept of Pater Familias Potentas or fathers power over the family. The wives were allowed to move about more freely in Rome than Greece, but their fathers or husbands or other custodial male family members in Rome had the power of life and death over not only their daughters and wives and sisters but over their sons, grandsons, granddaughters slaves and slaves that their family members owned. These arrangements for men’s power over female family members fell about before Christianity started and their societies fell apart. Christianity took over their cultures and reintroduced patriarchy and androcracy but not the harsh pagan patriarchy but the kinder Christian patriarchy ridding the gynocracy of the late Roman Republic and early Roman Imperial period.

Rome had conquered Greece Israel where Christianity started at the end of the Ancient Roman Republic. Our age now in the West is more of a gynocracy than Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome. It seems men civilize women more than women civilize men. When men can get sex on demand from their wives and are able to own or control their wives and children as well as take responsibility for them then men build and maintain civilization. When men can not do these things the men passively let civilization fall apart or actively destroy it; and, men do this more so when women own or control men and children. Our present day cultures in the West have women own and control men and children. Bachelor men and Wodowed men are the least owned and controlled by women but are controlled by women via harassment charges etc. and this is enforced by our ruling elite and government. Divorced men are controlled more than Bachelor and Widowed men. Married men are controlled most of all. There is no equality in relationships between me and women as women are deemed superior to men in the West despite the lies and gaslighting saying it is the opposite in the present day West.

By: Jop

Jop — Fri, 24 Feb 2023 18:29:46 +0000

Thanks to the abolition of cousin marriage, monogamy is failing, and polygamy (through hookup culture) has come back.

By: Wilson

Wilson — Fri, 24 Feb 2023 17:28:29 +0000

Probably just degeneracy, almost everyone is too poor to support a big family, and the few who have access to the concentrated wealth don’t have multiple wives or even mistresses or even courtesans, they go to Epstein island.

By: Bob Sykes

Bob Sykes — Fri, 24 Feb 2023 13:20:01 +0000

The counter argument is that polygamy profoundly destabilizes the group, because most men go without wives and sometime even access to women.

Add to that, that in extreme environments like the tundra and taiga in front of the ice sheets, women need the commitment of men to their children, and this is best achieved through monogamy.