Comments on: Land’s own life followed the same course he envisioned for the West

By: Pseudo-Chrysostom

Pseudo-Chrysostom — Thu, 02 Mar 2023 05:06:52 +0000

The problem faced by the paperclip maximizer is that inability to do more than proceduraly fixiate on (a) contingency, also entails an inability to see the fiture in general; which means problems with planning, strategizing, and adapting to the vagaries of the universe, and all its wrinkles.

In other words, the kind of being(s) that would actually be capable of successfully paper-clip maximizing the universe (against any and all opposition), would by the same stroke not be so limited by such teleoi in the first place.

In other other words, the orthogonality thesis is inherently false.

By: Jim

Jim — Sat, 11 Feb 2023 19:50:21 +0000

Hillary Clinton: “Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.”

By: Jim

Jim — Sat, 11 Feb 2023 19:45:00 +0000

Justin Trudeau: “If you kill your enemies, they win.”

Nick Land: “If we unconditionally surrender to liberal capitalism, we win.”

By: Bomag

Bomag — Thu, 09 Feb 2023 15:56:23 +0000

Paperclip AI: wondering about built in feedback loops. If it can calculate itself going extinct from its monomaniacal pursuit, it should back off and let a few others live so it can live longer. Wondering where meta goals start to kick in.

I wonder about the theme where the paper clip AI is pursuing its goal; then an advanced sentient paperclip making species shows up in orbit; paperclip AI calculates that it can achieve a ten-fold increase in production if it gives all over to the new immigrants. In a way, that would be a major win. But, the paperclips are no longer made by the AI, so maybe it resists on ontological grounds. Hmmm.