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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Slovenian Guest</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happened? Monetization won: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;This isn&#039;t the Internet from 15 years ago, much less the Internet from 25 years ago.

Web pages aren&#039;t built by Internet people to be viewed by Internet people using devices and software that have been carefully optimized by Internet people. Websites run on prefab templates used as value-extraction tools to harvest either consumer dollars or consumer data which can be turned into dollars. Most web browsing is done on phones.

Most people are &quot;on the Internet&quot; in some way pretty much every minute of the day, whether they think of it that way or not.
When the average person says they care about &quot;privacy&quot;, what they really mean is they don&#039;t want their information stolen to make purchases or open lines of credit in their name. They don&#039;t actually mean &quot;I want to keep my life, and communications, and activities private&quot;. So privacy features really are not the motivator tech people believe them to be.

Most people have been rewired into pure convenience-seeking consumer drones. Whatever browser opens the quickest and easiest, with the least amount of setup and the highest integration into other apps/OSes, and feels the most familiar, that&#039;s the browser they will use. I wager that a significant percentage of, say, iPhone users, wouldn&#039;t even know &quot;Safari&quot; is the name of a web browser. They just know the method to get to a website -- go tap on that blue circle compass thing in a specific spot on their home screen. Or people use their phone&#039;s app-switching shortcut to move among apps without launching a fresh browser instance.

What does Firefox have that would pierce the fog of convenience strongly enough to grab a modern person&#039;s attention and hold it long enough for them to be bothered to take several minutes minutes and half a dozen taps/clicks to install an &quot;alternative browser&quot; and switch their integration to use it instead? I don&#039;t mean Firefox the program with a set of features which can be compared to other programs in a Wikipedia chart. I mean &quot;Firefox&quot; as a integrated way to do things in modern life the way &quot;Google&quot; is.

Face it, the future belongs to a small handful of monopolists leveraging their products and their partner products. The monetization of the Internet has won. The fringe power-users have lost. Have a nice day.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


To quote a random &lt;a href=&quot;https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=21569198&amp;cid=62636006&quot;&gt;schmuck&lt;/a&gt; from Slashdot.

I really want my web 1.0 back. And a phone made of bakelite!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened? Monetization won: </p>
<blockquote><p>This isn&#8217;t the Internet from 15 years ago, much less the Internet from 25 years ago.</p>
<p>Web pages aren&#8217;t built by Internet people to be viewed by Internet people using devices and software that have been carefully optimized by Internet people. Websites run on prefab templates used as value-extraction tools to harvest either consumer dollars or consumer data which can be turned into dollars. Most web browsing is done on phones.</p>
<p>Most people are &#8220;on the Internet&#8221; in some way pretty much every minute of the day, whether they think of it that way or not.<br />
When the average person says they care about &#8220;privacy&#8221;, what they really mean is they don&#8217;t want their information stolen to make purchases or open lines of credit in their name. They don&#8217;t actually mean &#8220;I want to keep my life, and communications, and activities private&#8221;. So privacy features really are not the motivator tech people believe them to be.</p>
<p>Most people have been rewired into pure convenience-seeking consumer drones. Whatever browser opens the quickest and easiest, with the least amount of setup and the highest integration into other apps/OSes, and feels the most familiar, that&#8217;s the browser they will use. I wager that a significant percentage of, say, iPhone users, wouldn&#8217;t even know &#8220;Safari&#8221; is the name of a web browser. They just know the method to get to a website &#8212; go tap on that blue circle compass thing in a specific spot on their home screen. Or people use their phone&#8217;s app-switching shortcut to move among apps without launching a fresh browser instance.</p>
<p>What does Firefox have that would pierce the fog of convenience strongly enough to grab a modern person&#8217;s attention and hold it long enough for them to be bothered to take several minutes minutes and half a dozen taps/clicks to install an &#8220;alternative browser&#8221; and switch their integration to use it instead? I don&#8217;t mean Firefox the program with a set of features which can be compared to other programs in a Wikipedia chart. I mean &#8220;Firefox&#8221; as a integrated way to do things in modern life the way &#8220;Google&#8221; is.</p>
<p>Face it, the future belongs to a small handful of monopolists leveraging their products and their partner products. The monetization of the Internet has won. The fringe power-users have lost. Have a nice day.</p></blockquote>
<p>To quote a random <a href="https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=21569198&amp;cid=62636006">schmuck</a> from Slashdot.</p>
<p>I really want my web 1.0 back. And a phone made of bakelite!!!</p>
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