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	<title>Comments on: The power to hurt confers bargaining power</title>
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		<title>By: Pseudo-Chrysostom</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2022/03/the-power-to-hurt-confers-bargaining-power/comment-page-1/#comment-3513066</link>
		<dc:creator>Pseudo-Chrysostom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2022 12:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most common and obvious use of compellance by the Atlantic empire is first, their efforts to replace local priestly castes with their own preachers; and if you make a stink about it, they then try to &#039;color revolution&#039; you; and if you fight back against this, they then call up their janissaries to drop bombs all over you, for &#039;human rights abuses&#039;. Because obviously those outside the empire are being provocative warmongers for not submitting and being inside under the empire already, and the poor empire thus has no choice but to defend itself from this heinous aggression.

In other words basically, the choices people were given is either throw a gay pride parade, or be destroyed by golems.

But of course, that same empire, by the very nature of its faith, has done yeoman work in rendering itself impotent as well. Which means, Interesting Times are certainly ahead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most common and obvious use of compellance by the Atlantic empire is first, their efforts to replace local priestly castes with their own preachers; and if you make a stink about it, they then try to &#8216;color revolution&#8217; you; and if you fight back against this, they then call up their janissaries to drop bombs all over you, for &#8216;human rights abuses&#8217;. Because obviously those outside the empire are being provocative warmongers for not submitting and being inside under the empire already, and the poor empire thus has no choice but to defend itself from this heinous aggression.</p>
<p>In other words basically, the choices people were given is either throw a gay pride parade, or be destroyed by golems.</p>
<p>But of course, that same empire, by the very nature of its faith, has done yeoman work in rendering itself impotent as well. Which means, Interesting Times are certainly ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2022/03/the-power-to-hurt-confers-bargaining-power/comment-page-1/#comment-3512134</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2022 02:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry Jones says, &quot;The way to a better society is to coerce bad people into leaving the rest of us alone — and no other coercion at all.&quot;

YES! YES! YES! YES!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Jones says, &#8220;The way to a better society is to coerce bad people into leaving the rest of us alone — and no other coercion at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>YES! YES! YES! YES!</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2022/03/the-power-to-hurt-confers-bargaining-power/comment-page-1/#comment-3512038</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2022 13:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be minimally socialized is to be coerced into following the norms dictated - and enforced - by others. Don&#039;t do what you can&#039;t get away with.

Most of our morality is cope to avoid facing this brutal truth. The rest is an attempt to codify reciprocity - the basis for a sane and healthy society.

Coercion dominates where there are gross power imbalances or too many stupid people. Reciprocity dominates among sane and intelligent people.

Good people make a good society. Most of the societal norms are manifestations, not causes. Sick people live by sick rules and construct a sick society thereby.

The way to a better society is to coerce bad people into leaving the rest of us alone - and no other coercion at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be minimally socialized is to be coerced into following the norms dictated &#8211; and enforced &#8211; by others. Don&#8217;t do what you can&#8217;t get away with.</p>
<p>Most of our morality is cope to avoid facing this brutal truth. The rest is an attempt to codify reciprocity &#8211; the basis for a sane and healthy society.</p>
<p>Coercion dominates where there are gross power imbalances or too many stupid people. Reciprocity dominates among sane and intelligent people.</p>
<p>Good people make a good society. Most of the societal norms are manifestations, not causes. Sick people live by sick rules and construct a sick society thereby.</p>
<p>The way to a better society is to coerce bad people into leaving the rest of us alone &#8211; and no other coercion at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Freddo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2022 22:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of days ago I stumbled across a story that in the 2nd Chechen war the Russians would make an offer to city/town elders that if not a single bullet was fired from the town at the Russians then the Russians would return the favor. But if the town shot at the Russians they would go all-in. The Russians would do a patrol together with the town elder to make sure there were no enemy forces, but otherwise stay out.

And I was thinking that the reason the Chechen elders probably took that deal is because they had been through the first Chechen war, so they knew enough of the reality of war that they wanted to avoid it.

Pity the fools that depend on twitter for their world view.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of days ago I stumbled across a story that in the 2nd Chechen war the Russians would make an offer to city/town elders that if not a single bullet was fired from the town at the Russians then the Russians would return the favor. But if the town shot at the Russians they would go all-in. The Russians would do a patrol together with the town elder to make sure there were no enemy forces, but otherwise stay out.</p>
<p>And I was thinking that the reason the Chechen elders probably took that deal is because they had been through the first Chechen war, so they knew enough of the reality of war that they wanted to avoid it.</p>
<p>Pity the fools that depend on twitter for their world view.</p>
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