Oh and BTW you personally making excuses for psychopaths is…most telling.

They are maladapted, to civilization. What Spaths are is the human in it’s original animal form. Just like gangs of Chimps. Do Chimps have civilization? No they roam around in packs on the edge of their territories and murder anyone who intercedes.

Spaths are nothing but animals.

Sam J’s theory of civilization,”Civilization came about because of the rise of empathy. This allowed people to work together”.

Sam J’s theory of civilization, ”Empathy is necessary to form civilization. As capacity for empathy rose civilization rose with it.”

Sam J’s theory of civilization, “Without empathy there can be no civilization”.

This is I’m sure why the Neanderthals lived in Europe for 250,000 years and didn’t do a damn thing. Built nothing. Passed on nothing. A big nothing. Yet Cro-Mags came to Europe and immediately we see all kinds of stuff being built, improved. They were not animals.

The Spaths we see are maybe powerful, smart and ruthless but they are animals and will ruin civilization. Letting Spaths run around free in your civilization is like letting hogs live in your living room, they will stink up everything.

Basic human decency doesn’t scale. That’s why we have wars.

It’s also why those religions and philosophies that preach universal love simply don’t work.

Don’t call anyone maladapted if he’s getting ahead in the world. Whatever works is sane. If you’re well adjusted to a sick society, you will outlast someone who is poorly adjusted to a sick society. After the sick society crashes and burns, then there will be a different sort of competition. But the sick society is the elimination round. Nobody too good for his own good will be there to claim the future.

The psychos will have the second-to-last laugh.

Me, in a bad way. I used to devour books but since the internet I read too much crap and I think it’s stunted my attention span. I find it harder to get back into reading full length books with a good amount of complexity in them. Yet there’s a list a mile long that I ought to read.

“…it might confer a profound strategic advantage for two psychopaths to have three factions?”

I don’t think it does. In actuality I expect it’s just a side affect of psychopathy. Constant gaslighting everyone, all the time.

Like pit bulls being more likely to attack small children. It’s not their job, but…

That wasn’t where I was going with my thinking, but that sounds like it might also be true. Psychopaths are highly evolved to exploit weaknesses. If a deceptive psychopath can hurt a lot of people by deceiving his allies, or even by deceiving himself, some psychopath will probably try those tactics and succeed. Thus you could get a case of two psychopaths with three factions, or more likely, n psychopaths and n! conspiracies involving psychopaths. I might have to review set theory in order to count all the subsets involved.

https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/discretemathematics/combinations.php

Anyway, what I mean to say is that you might find yourself in ethnic group A, and you might notice your country is going to hell, but some folks blame psychopaths from ethnic group B, but other folks say, “No, no, ethnic group B is not the real problem, the real problem is our own bad guys from ethnic group A.” Maybe both ethnic groups A and B have psychopaths. Maybe one group, e.g. ethnic group B, has more dangerous psychopaths than ethnic group A.

“…have any of you read the biography of Ariel Sharon”

I am really far behind on my self-assigned reading list. I still have not really delved into “By Way of Deception” and “They Dare to Speak Out.” On that note, if I forget to check up on this conversation, it’s probably because I have to catch up on my background reading. But thanks for the stimulating thoughts, everyone, and thanks as always to Isegoria for running one of the best blogs on the Internet.

In the past I would have never really paid much attention to these sort of details but once you learn about different sorts of genetic mental psychologies you begin to see stuff like this pop out all over the place.

No the opposite.

That is a valid and worthwhile line of inquiry. It may be that some special characteristics allow certain groups of psychopaths to cooperate more effectively than other psychopaths.

For example, there might be some special gene in Tutsi psychopaths that allows them to cooperate more effectively than Sami psychopaths. This means that of course Tutsi psychopaths will oppress everyone in their vicinity, and Sami psychopaths will oppress everyone in their vicinity, but in a power struggle between factions, the Tutsi psychopath faction would have a strategic advantage over the Sami psychopath faction.

Human biology is full of odd surprises. How surprising it would be to discover that some particular gene pool within humanity had an advantage in the field of psychopathic violence! And yet such a possibility might yet be revealed.