Comments on: It does not consist of an effort to get someone else to adopt our point of view https://www.isegoria.net/2022/02/it-does-not-consist-of-an-effort-to-get-someone-else-to-adopt-our-point-of-view/ From the ancient Greek for equality in freedom of speech; an eclectic mix of thoughts, large and small Tue, 30 Jun 2026 00:53:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.1 By: Pseudo-Chrysostom https://www.isegoria.net/2022/02/it-does-not-consist-of-an-effort-to-get-someone-else-to-adopt-our-point-of-view/comment-page-1/#comment-3502985 Pseudo-Chrysostom Wed, 02 Feb 2022 04:17:24 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=48632#comment-3502985 A time honored tactic of the old 20th century liberal order; ‘true such-and-such, (((properly understood))), is proggism’.

]]> By: Harry Jones https://www.isegoria.net/2022/02/it-does-not-consist-of-an-effort-to-get-someone-else-to-adopt-our-point-of-view/comment-page-1/#comment-3502805 Harry Jones Tue, 01 Feb 2022 15:40:11 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=48632#comment-3502805 If you understand the other person’s motives better than he himself understands them, you can manipulate him into doing what you want.

Not everyone is conscious enough to have a point of view. But everyone has motives.

Rational, fact-based discussion is only possible between two rational, fact-based people. Trying it with anyone else is a waste of time at best.

Think of irrational people as malfunctioning vending machines. Start by asking yourself how badly you really want that Snickers bar.

]]> By: Bomag https://www.isegoria.net/2022/02/it-does-not-consist-of-an-effort-to-get-someone-else-to-adopt-our-point-of-view/comment-page-1/#comment-3502786 Bomag Tue, 01 Feb 2022 14:03:17 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=48632#comment-3502786 “…it requires arguing from the opponent’s point of view…”

No such thing. Only our point of view is the one that exists.(sarc)

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