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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2021 04:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You’re welcome, Sam. I agree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re welcome, Sam. I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2021 02:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for getting so off topic. My apologies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for getting so off topic. My apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXXC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2021 23:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It’s just parklets/HeathCare.gov/rapid tests/high-speed rail/housing/etc....&quot;

You&#039;re right, Ezra, it&#039;s not a big deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s just parklets/HeathCare.gov/rapid tests/high-speed rail/housing/etc&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, Ezra, it&#8217;s not a big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 03:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh and by the way those police testing firms are racist. :)

https://www.nj.com/essex/2015/08/bias_claims_against_psych_testing_firm_threaten_ne.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and by the way those police testing firms are racist. :)</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nj.com/essex/2015/08/bias_claims_against_psych_testing_firm_threaten_ne.html" >https://www.nj.com/essex/2015/08/bias_claims_against_psych_testing_firm_threaten_ne.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 02:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW look at Hillary and Nancy Pelosi and if you can&#039;t see the psychopath in those two faces you&#039;re not paying attention. I think it&#039;s harder for Spath Women than Men to hide their expressions. Maybe because Women are more emotional we can better notice it but I can see the psychopathy in those two easy. Particularly when they get that big smile wide eye look. It&#039;s SO DAMN FAKE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW look at Hillary and Nancy Pelosi and if you can&#8217;t see the psychopath in those two faces you&#8217;re not paying attention. I think it&#8217;s harder for Spath Women than Men to hide their expressions. Maybe because Women are more emotional we can better notice it but I can see the psychopathy in those two easy. Particularly when they get that big smile wide eye look. It&#8217;s SO DAMN FAKE.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 02:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The guy has missed what I believe THE MOST IMPORTANT part of empires and in a smaller way countries to destroy themselves. The rise up higher and higher in the countries government of psychopaths. It doesn&#039;t take but a few to drive the whole country into the ground.

There&#039;s a 100% no doubt about it case of this in history.

We see civilizations rise and fall and all this turmoil but why? Civilizations rise up from hard work and the struggle of the many. Once they get to the top they become more powerful and the ruling of them attracts the the most ruthless. Over time the psychopaths move to the top and then, the whole thing crashes to the ground.

One such case that destroyed a whole civilization is Alcibiades of Athens. Alcibiades was almost certainly a psychopath. Some had an intense hatred for him, some great love. It was Alcibiades that pushed the great idea of attacking Syracuse on the Athenians. The failed Syracuse attack was THE downfall of Athens. The failed attack destroyed them completely. The same Alcibiades went from city to city in the ancient world. In Sparta he was more Spartan than the Spartans. Changing his chameleon skin every time he moved somewhere else and betraying everyone he came in contact with. Alcibiades killed Athens with risky schemes to glorify himself.

What did Plutarch have to say about him.

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Alcibiades*.html

&quot;...He had, as they say, one power which transcended all others, and proved an implement of his chase for men: that of assimilating and adapting himself to the pursuits and lives of others, thereby assuming more violent changes than the chameleon. That animal, however, as it is said, is utterly unable to assume one colour, namely, white; but Alcibiades could associate with good and bad alike, and found naught that he could not imitate and practice. 5 In Sparta, he was all for bodily training, simplicity of life, and severity of countenance; in Ionia, for p65 luxurious ease and pleasure; in Thrace, for drinking deep; in Thessaly, for riding hard; and when he was thrown with Tissaphernes the satrap, he outdid even Persian magnificence in his pomp and lavishness. It was not that he could so easily pass entirely from one manner of man to another, nor that he actually underwent in every case a change in his real character; but when he saw that his natural manners were likely to be annoying to his associates, he was quick to assume any counterfeit exterior which might in each case be suitable for them...&quot;

http://www.ancient.eu.com/Alcibiades/

One thing not widely known is King Agis of Sparta hated Alcibiades because Alcibiades had a child by the Kings wife.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy has missed what I believe THE MOST IMPORTANT part of empires and in a smaller way countries to destroy themselves. The rise up higher and higher in the countries government of psychopaths. It doesn&#8217;t take but a few to drive the whole country into the ground.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a 100% no doubt about it case of this in history.</p>
<p>We see civilizations rise and fall and all this turmoil but why? Civilizations rise up from hard work and the struggle of the many. Once they get to the top they become more powerful and the ruling of them attracts the the most ruthless. Over time the psychopaths move to the top and then, the whole thing crashes to the ground.</p>
<p>One such case that destroyed a whole civilization is Alcibiades of Athens. Alcibiades was almost certainly a psychopath. Some had an intense hatred for him, some great love. It was Alcibiades that pushed the great idea of attacking Syracuse on the Athenians. The failed Syracuse attack was THE downfall of Athens. The failed attack destroyed them completely. The same Alcibiades went from city to city in the ancient world. In Sparta he was more Spartan than the Spartans. Changing his chameleon skin every time he moved somewhere else and betraying everyone he came in contact with. Alcibiades killed Athens with risky schemes to glorify himself.</p>
<p>What did Plutarch have to say about him.</p>
<p><a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Alcibiades*.html" >http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Alcibiades*.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;He had, as they say, one power which transcended all others, and proved an implement of his chase for men: that of assimilating and adapting himself to the pursuits and lives of others, thereby assuming more violent changes than the chameleon. That animal, however, as it is said, is utterly unable to assume one colour, namely, white; but Alcibiades could associate with good and bad alike, and found naught that he could not imitate and practice. 5 In Sparta, he was all for bodily training, simplicity of life, and severity of countenance; in Ionia, for p65 luxurious ease and pleasure; in Thrace, for drinking deep; in Thessaly, for riding hard; and when he was thrown with Tissaphernes the satrap, he outdid even Persian magnificence in his pomp and lavishness. It was not that he could so easily pass entirely from one manner of man to another, nor that he actually underwent in every case a change in his real character; but when he saw that his natural manners were likely to be annoying to his associates, he was quick to assume any counterfeit exterior which might in each case be suitable for them&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ancient.eu.com/Alcibiades/" >http://www.ancient.eu.com/Alcibiades/</a></p>
<p>One thing not widely known is King Agis of Sparta hated Alcibiades because Alcibiades had a child by the Kings wife.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 02:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim, 

Thank you.

I watched this. They should be thrown out of the police force and anyone who gave orders to do as they did should also.

I fully understand people favoring having police but in many places they have become such mercenary assholes that we would be better off without them and just go back to lynching.

They don&#039;t stop crime in a lot of cases and just go around murdering people that have less power then them. Some of this, probably more than people realize is directly related to the psychological profiles that they are specifically using to hire police. The courts are responsible for this. 

Just take a wild ass guess at what kind of people are responsible for these psychological evaluations which pick who gets to be a policeman? I followed a few of the links to find out who put these guys on the street. Who exactly is in charge of the evaluations that see these guys as fit to shoot people on their porches? Here, surprised? It&#039;s &quot;&quot;. And look at the cute blue stripe. It doesn&#039;t show at the link but other pictures from the same page show the stripe in the flag as blue.

https://www.zoominfo.com/p/Lewis-Schlosser/559398868

Have any of you ever read any of James LaFond stuff. He lived in Baltimore and as a regular working guy was attacked and threatened by the police near as much as by the thugs.

He had several friends of his killed by the police, and they were not criminals.

https://gab.com/ElwoodBlues/posts/107458974409763457]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>I watched this. They should be thrown out of the police force and anyone who gave orders to do as they did should also.</p>
<p>I fully understand people favoring having police but in many places they have become such mercenary assholes that we would be better off without them and just go back to lynching.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t stop crime in a lot of cases and just go around murdering people that have less power then them. Some of this, probably more than people realize is directly related to the psychological profiles that they are specifically using to hire police. The courts are responsible for this. </p>
<p>Just take a wild ass guess at what kind of people are responsible for these psychological evaluations which pick who gets to be a policeman? I followed a few of the links to find out who put these guys on the street. Who exactly is in charge of the evaluations that see these guys as fit to shoot people on their porches? Here, surprised? It&#8217;s &#8220;&#8221;. And look at the cute blue stripe. It doesn&#8217;t show at the link but other pictures from the same page show the stripe in the flag as blue.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.zoominfo.com/p/Lewis-Schlosser/559398868" >https://www.zoominfo.com/p/Lewis-Schlosser/559398868</a></p>
<p>Have any of you ever read any of James LaFond stuff. He lived in Baltimore and as a regular working guy was attacked and threatened by the police near as much as by the thugs.</p>
<p>He had several friends of his killed by the police, and they were not criminals.</p>
<p><a href="https://gab.com/ElwoodBlues/posts/107458974409763457" >https://gab.com/ElwoodBlues/posts/107458974409763457</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 20:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t find the post or comment where I promised Sam the video of police shooting at suburbanites, but I&#039;ve come to deliver:

https://vimeo.com/657577270]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t find the post or comment where I promised Sam the video of police shooting at suburbanites, but I&#8217;ve come to deliver:</p>
<p><a href="https://vimeo.com/657577270" >https://vimeo.com/657577270</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 15:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;We need government...&quot;

Which government?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We need government&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Which government?</p>
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		<title>By: Bomag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bomag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 13:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of the medieval cathedrals took centuries to build.

Just sayin&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the medieval cathedrals took centuries to build.</p>
<p>Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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