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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2021/11/yes-it-was-an-evil-empire/comment-page-1/#comment-3459363</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2021 09:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;There is no other reliable basis for truth claims about the past, except perhaps archaeology.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

40,000 year ago, Korg and Og sit around fire drinking copious amounts of fermented lager of some sort. Korg messes around with clay making a big fat girl effigy and says, &quot;Hey! Look at this fat girl I made&quot;. Korg and and Og laugh uproariously, and Korg throws clay fat girl in fire. Wakes up with huge hangover next day, forgets about clay fat girl.

Archaeologist find clay fat girl. Declare, &quot;This object was used in or an object of worship.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;There is no other reliable basis for truth claims about the past, except perhaps archaeology.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>40,000 year ago, Korg and Og sit around fire drinking copious amounts of fermented lager of some sort. Korg messes around with clay making a big fat girl effigy and says, &#8220;Hey! Look at this fat girl I made&#8221;. Korg and and Og laugh uproariously, and Korg throws clay fat girl in fire. Wakes up with huge hangover next day, forgets about clay fat girl.</p>
<p>Archaeologist find clay fat girl. Declare, &#8220;This object was used in or an object of worship.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People learn nothing from history because people don&#039;t trust history. It&#039;s news from the grave, and nobody trusts the news.

Basically, it&#039;s gossip from the grave. Nobody knows for a fact what happened before he was born, or what&#039;s happening right now on the other side of the planet. There are no qualia there.

Anyone can make up anything, prior to the age of audio-visual recording. And deceptive editing has always been a thing. Now we&#039;ve got deepfakes.

This is why I&#039;m a radical empiricist, bordering on solipsist. If you tell me the sky is blue, I&#039;ll look up and check. Especially on a cloudy day or at night.

If life extension ever makes it possible for people to live a thousand years, then reasonable people will feel certain of what happened a thousand years previous - because they&#039;ll have seen it and remember it. There is no other reliable basis for truth claims about the past, except perhaps archaeology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People learn nothing from history because people don&#8217;t trust history. It&#8217;s news from the grave, and nobody trusts the news.</p>
<p>Basically, it&#8217;s gossip from the grave. Nobody knows for a fact what happened before he was born, or what&#8217;s happening right now on the other side of the planet. There are no qualia there.</p>
<p>Anyone can make up anything, prior to the age of audio-visual recording. And deceptive editing has always been a thing. Now we&#8217;ve got deepfakes.</p>
<p>This is why I&#8217;m a radical empiricist, bordering on solipsist. If you tell me the sky is blue, I&#8217;ll look up and check. Especially on a cloudy day or at night.</p>
<p>If life extension ever makes it possible for people to live a thousand years, then reasonable people will feel certain of what happened a thousand years previous &#8211; because they&#8217;ll have seen it and remember it. There is no other reliable basis for truth claims about the past, except perhaps archaeology.</p>
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		<title>By: Altitude Zero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Altitude Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 17:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the thing that typified most believers in the Soviet experiment was not any actual knowledge  of conditions in the USSR, or even any understanding of theoretical Marxism, but a burning need to believe, obviously a surrogate for religious belief. And now I&#039;m seeing it again - sweet young things explaining to me that all that stuff about  Stalin mass murdering people is just CIA propaganda, or that Mao, or Ho, or Fidel, or whoever, would not have turned to communism if the evil US reactionaries had not somehow pushed them into it, even if they had been communists years before the Cold War even started. People learn nothing from history - which I suppose is one of the reasons that we are in the mess we&#039;re in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the thing that typified most believers in the Soviet experiment was not any actual knowledge  of conditions in the USSR, or even any understanding of theoretical Marxism, but a burning need to believe, obviously a surrogate for religious belief. And now I&#8217;m seeing it again &#8211; sweet young things explaining to me that all that stuff about  Stalin mass murdering people is just CIA propaganda, or that Mao, or Ho, or Fidel, or whoever, would not have turned to communism if the evil US reactionaries had not somehow pushed them into it, even if they had been communists years before the Cold War even started. People learn nothing from history &#8211; which I suppose is one of the reasons that we are in the mess we&#8217;re in.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucklucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucklucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 15:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The biggest Western problem is and has been Journalism]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest Western problem is and has been Journalism</p>
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		<title>By: Bile Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bile Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 00:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come the revolution all the Che-/Castro-/generic commie-lovers should meet the new guillotine, the woodchipper.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come the revolution all the Che-/Castro-/generic commie-lovers should meet the new guillotine, the woodchipper.</p>
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		<title>By: ETat</title>
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		<dc:creator>ETat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 17:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have any number of my own personal anecdotes along the author&#039;s lines, for instance:

A former coworker, Syrian-American, was ranting in a group of others how he has it on a most trustworthy authority that everyone in the USSR had a car &quot;given free&quot; by the government, as well as the usual canards about free medical care and education. I wouldn&#039;t have engaged if not for the car claim. I told him only the select few could have the funds, much less access, to purchase a car, let alone a foreign car, and about the decades-long lists for those who wished, and how much in percentage to an average salary it cost, and non-existent autobody repair system, and state of the roads, and eligibility to build a garage, etc.

His response: 

It doesn&#039;t matter that you lived there, what you say is a lie. I know better, because I believe my sources, not you.

Another:

When evaluating my Master&#039;s diploma (industrial engineering) in the 1990s for applying for a course at CUNY in a related design field, all my mandatory political courses from a Soviet university were credited as &quot;History&quot; &#8212; &quot;Scientific Communism&quot;, &quot;Socialist Political Economy&quot;, &quot;History of the KPSS&quot; &#8212; while Manual Drafting and 3D Geometry, perversely, were not...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have any number of my own personal anecdotes along the author&#8217;s lines, for instance:</p>
<p>A former coworker, Syrian-American, was ranting in a group of others how he has it on a most trustworthy authority that everyone in the USSR had a car &#8220;given free&#8221; by the government, as well as the usual canards about free medical care and education. I wouldn&#8217;t have engaged if not for the car claim. I told him only the select few could have the funds, much less access, to purchase a car, let alone a foreign car, and about the decades-long lists for those who wished, and how much in percentage to an average salary it cost, and non-existent autobody repair system, and state of the roads, and eligibility to build a garage, etc.</p>
<p>His response: </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter that you lived there, what you say is a lie. I know better, because I believe my sources, not you.</p>
<p>Another:</p>
<p>When evaluating my Master&#8217;s diploma (industrial engineering) in the 1990s for applying for a course at CUNY in a related design field, all my mandatory political courses from a Soviet university were credited as &#8220;History&#8221; &mdash; &#8220;Scientific Communism&#8221;, &#8220;Socialist Political Economy&#8221;, &#8220;History of the KPSS&#8221; &mdash; while Manual Drafting and 3D Geometry, perversely, were not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Faze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2021 22:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some Russian and Ukrainian young people born after 1991 express a certain, &quot;It couldn&#039;t have been THAT bad,&quot; attitude, and are nostalgic for their parents&#039; world and its certainties. This could be amplified by their struggles in the real world as they grow older, and may be expressed as a political preference in years to come.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some Russian and Ukrainian young people born after 1991 express a certain, &#8220;It couldn&#8217;t have been THAT bad,&#8221; attitude, and are nostalgic for their parents&#8217; world and its certainties. This could be amplified by their struggles in the real world as they grow older, and may be expressed as a political preference in years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Szopen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Szopen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2021 18:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah. Great system, where in exchange for losing your basic freedoms you gained lacks of toilet paper, as one economists quipped. I was shocked too when I was talking to one &lt;em&gt;Polish&lt;/em&gt; youngster, who was trying to convince me that we are now much worse off under capitalism than we used to be. After much effort in bringing back basic statistics I just gave up. I assume he probably was one of the &lt;em&gt;nomenklatura&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. Great system, where in exchange for losing your basic freedoms you gained lacks of toilet paper, as one economists quipped. I was shocked too when I was talking to one <em>Polish</em> youngster, who was trying to convince me that we are now much worse off under capitalism than we used to be. After much effort in bringing back basic statistics I just gave up. I assume he probably was one of the <em>nomenklatura</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Lu An Li</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lu An Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2021 13:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like with Fidel and Cuba. The great health care system. The great educational system. The great ballet company too. Etc.

Then later it is shown to be all a farce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like with Fidel and Cuba. The great health care system. The great educational system. The great ballet company too. Etc.</p>
<p>Then later it is shown to be all a farce.</p>
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