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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2021 15:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Szopen says, &quot;Sam J., so you think everything von Neumann touched, you know, the guy just recently praised on this very blog, was shit?&quot;

Is or is not &quot;Jews&quot; plural? If there were no Jews, none at all I would trade that for for a garbage truck driver in Atlanta, Georgia. They have done so much harm, so much destruction and now they are trying to murder everyone with the vax. Do you deny the vax is nothing more than a weapon? We will see. This latest psychopathic trick is really sticking their necks out.

Why is it that every single place the Jews have gone for thousands of years they get thrown out of? Everywhere in all of history they get thrown out. It&#039;s their hatred and their behavior. Stuff like 9-11. The vax. The predatory way they have used the FED.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Szopen says, &#8220;Sam J., so you think everything von Neumann touched, you know, the guy just recently praised on this very blog, was shit?&#8221;</p>
<p>Is or is not &#8220;Jews&#8221; plural? If there were no Jews, none at all I would trade that for for a garbage truck driver in Atlanta, Georgia. They have done so much harm, so much destruction and now they are trying to murder everyone with the vax. Do you deny the vax is nothing more than a weapon? We will see. This latest psychopathic trick is really sticking their necks out.</p>
<p>Why is it that every single place the Jews have gone for thousands of years they get thrown out of? Everywhere in all of history they get thrown out. It&#8217;s their hatred and their behavior. Stuff like 9-11. The vax. The predatory way they have used the FED.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2021 10:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The individuals who drive technological progress — and thereby drive most of societal progress — are a too tiny minority.

I discovered this to my dismay working in R&amp;D. Even if you try to select for the inclination to create cool things, the bulk of the people you run into are assholes.

If geniuses weren&#039;t rare, we wouldn&#039;t admire them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The individuals who drive technological progress — and thereby drive most of societal progress — are a too tiny minority.</p>
<p>I discovered this to my dismay working in R&amp;D. Even if you try to select for the inclination to create cool things, the bulk of the people you run into are assholes.</p>
<p>If geniuses weren&#8217;t rare, we wouldn&#8217;t admire them.</p>
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		<title>By: Szopen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Szopen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2021 08:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam J., so you think everything von Neumann touched, you know, the guy just recently praised on this very blog, was shit? I wonder how you would react if you found out, hypothetically, you were part Jewish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam J., so you think everything von Neumann touched, you know, the guy just recently praised on this very blog, was shit? I wonder how you would react if you found out, hypothetically, you were part Jewish.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2021 05:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry Jones says,&quot;Everything touched by human hands is tainted.&quot;

This is a lie. It&#039;s true only for some people or some groups of people.  Some people everything they touch or most everything, becomes beautiful, more useful, more true and honest.

I can give example. I happened to be reading a bit about TeX the typesetting program by this guy. Most everything he has touched has made the world a better place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Knuth

In the other case everything the Jews touch turns to shit. Everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Jones says,&#8221;Everything touched by human hands is tainted.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a lie. It&#8217;s true only for some people or some groups of people.  Some people everything they touch or most everything, becomes beautiful, more useful, more true and honest.</p>
<p>I can give example. I happened to be reading a bit about TeX the typesetting program by this guy. Most everything he has touched has made the world a better place.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Knuth" >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Knuth</a></p>
<p>In the other case everything the Jews touch turns to shit. Everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2021 05:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The internet is fantastic. It allows us to not only be lied to but to see the shear mass of lies that have been fed to us all our lives. By making it plain that most of what we have been told is lies and that this continues in great swarths it hones the mind of ALL the populous. Every lie they tell us now becomes less trustworthy. We ALL are less likely to believe. This will over time bring out a synthesis of what the truth is the same way that people in mass can guess the weight of elephants by looking at them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The internet is fantastic. It allows us to not only be lied to but to see the shear mass of lies that have been fed to us all our lives. By making it plain that most of what we have been told is lies and that this continues in great swarths it hones the mind of ALL the populous. Every lie they tell us now becomes less trustworthy. We ALL are less likely to believe. This will over time bring out a synthesis of what the truth is the same way that people in mass can guess the weight of elephants by looking at them.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2021 00:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nonsense. Before the Internet, there were UUNET and RelayNet. TCP/IP was a logical next step in the evolution.

(Now IPV6 is arguably a forced march. The rationale for it is at best overstated, and some would say bogus.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nonsense. Before the Internet, there were UUNET and RelayNet. TCP/IP was a logical next step in the evolution.</p>
<p>(Now IPV6 is arguably a forced march. The rationale for it is at best overstated, and some would say bogus.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 23:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry Jones,

No offense but that’s retarded. The Internet was engineered from day one to be an intelligence mechanism. Nothing about it was inevitable, except maybe its purely military function. But the idea that everyone should be “connected” (again, connected &lt;i&gt;to what?)&lt;/i&gt; was weird and unusual. You can plausibly see the electrical grid as being inevitable, there was so much demand for it. You can plausibly see the telephonic infrastructure as being inevitable, there was so much demand for it. TV? There was some demand for TV, but mostly it hypnotized people. The Internet? It was literally forced into being. For its first 20 years it made approximately no money at all. Then there was (mysteriously) a massive wave of boom-bust infra investment that in many cases exceeded necessary capacity to this day. Then there was another massive wave of boom-bust dot-com investment from funny money central a.k.a. Wall Street out of which the current tech monopolists (except Apple, Microsoft, and Oracle) were born. 

You’re probably wondering why until the Donald was elected you had the ability to speak freely on the Internet. Most people haven’t figured this out yet, but I’ll clue you in. It’s really very simple: the Internet’s sponsors were still using metrics designed for an analogue world. What? They were measuring the wrong things, like foreign penetration, everyone worldwide under 25 increasingly speaking English natively, utility in color revolutions, etc. They weren’t measuring engagement on Twitter or Facebook that rivaled or exceeded the New York Times, the Economist et al.

When the Donald got in, it was like a bucket of ice-cold water to the face. They reassessed. Andrew Anglin, notorious Founding Fathers sympathizer, helped to cook his own goose by “leaking” a document explaining his influence over the mass mind, indisputably one of the greatest unforced errors in all of human history. Now knowing that the Internet was a threat to them, they planned to shut it down. They needed the ability to kick anyone off the Internet, so they gamed it out, including social media, payment processors, and domain registrars. Then they needed to test out their capabilities, so they tested them on him. Now he can’t own a domain or have a bank account and everyone knows that they live in an open-air prison surrounded by invisible electrified walls.

Ask: if American assets hadn’t built out Internet infrastructure, would there be an Internet-like digital network system today? Answer: unlikely.

You’d still have a landline and a newspaper on your doorstep.

And yes, Operation Flu Virus would be impossible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Jones,</p>
<p>No offense but that’s retarded. The Internet was engineered from day one to be an intelligence mechanism. Nothing about it was inevitable, except maybe its purely military function. But the idea that everyone should be “connected” (again, connected <i>to what?)</i> was weird and unusual. You can plausibly see the electrical grid as being inevitable, there was so much demand for it. You can plausibly see the telephonic infrastructure as being inevitable, there was so much demand for it. TV? There was some demand for TV, but mostly it hypnotized people. The Internet? It was literally forced into being. For its first 20 years it made approximately no money at all. Then there was (mysteriously) a massive wave of boom-bust infra investment that in many cases exceeded necessary capacity to this day. Then there was another massive wave of boom-bust dot-com investment from funny money central a.k.a. Wall Street out of which the current tech monopolists (except Apple, Microsoft, and Oracle) were born. </p>
<p>You’re probably wondering why until the Donald was elected you had the ability to speak freely on the Internet. Most people haven’t figured this out yet, but I’ll clue you in. It’s really very simple: the Internet’s sponsors were still using metrics designed for an analogue world. What? They were measuring the wrong things, like foreign penetration, everyone worldwide under 25 increasingly speaking English natively, utility in color revolutions, etc. They weren’t measuring engagement on Twitter or Facebook that rivaled or exceeded the New York Times, the Economist et al.</p>
<p>When the Donald got in, it was like a bucket of ice-cold water to the face. They reassessed. Andrew Anglin, notorious Founding Fathers sympathizer, helped to cook his own goose by “leaking” a document explaining his influence over the mass mind, indisputably one of the greatest unforced errors in all of human history. Now knowing that the Internet was a threat to them, they planned to shut it down. They needed the ability to kick anyone off the Internet, so they gamed it out, including social media, payment processors, and domain registrars. Then they needed to test out their capabilities, so they tested them on him. Now he can’t own a domain or have a bank account and everyone knows that they live in an open-air prison surrounded by invisible electrified walls.</p>
<p>Ask: if American assets hadn’t built out Internet infrastructure, would there be an Internet-like digital network system today? Answer: unlikely.</p>
<p>You’d still have a landline and a newspaper on your doorstep.</p>
<p>And yes, Operation Flu Virus would be impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 18:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everything touched by human hands is tainted. No use complaining about it.

Worldly wisdom is to accept the universal stain as a given and make the best of the world as we find it. The world is a dumpster behind the Demiurge&#039;s kitchen and we are hobos rooting in that dumpster, so no use complaining about the food or being too dainty in our habits. Even the elite are settling for what is least spoiled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything touched by human hands is tainted. No use complaining about it.</p>
<p>Worldly wisdom is to accept the universal stain as a given and make the best of the world as we find it. The world is a dumpster behind the Demiurge&#8217;s kitchen and we are hobos rooting in that dumpster, so no use complaining about the food or being too dainty in our habits. Even the elite are settling for what is least spoiled.</p>
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		<title>By: Albion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 17:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry Jones: &lt;em&gt;&quot;Are we all blaming connectivity now? That’s the scapegoat for human failings?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Not a scapegoat at all, but a refining of what has been useful to those in power. The development of the internet gave people the chance to communicate swiftly, widely and in many cases freely (equipment apart), but it also gave those with an agenda a way in to dictate, not forgetting the bots on so many sites. The &#039;net was a communication refinement with instant reach and -- given the way people flock to bad news -- it became a swift way for some to influence and control the masses negatively.

I take your point about all connectivity being essential to our &#039;story&#039;, except I would begin with spoken language, and not just horses (though cavalry became very powerful and very useful.) Every advance is a double-edged sword, aiding ordinary people and equally assisting those in power with darker motives.

I too am utterly aware, as I said earlier, that I am using the internet to publish this. It helps me to stay connected, which is good, but that connectivity can be -- and maybe too often is -- either tainted, influenced or even unplugged. The internet can be controlled centrally, or as good as, and for now we peasants have certain allowances in its use. For now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Jones: <em>&#8220;Are we all blaming connectivity now? That’s the scapegoat for human failings?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Not a scapegoat at all, but a refining of what has been useful to those in power. The development of the internet gave people the chance to communicate swiftly, widely and in many cases freely (equipment apart), but it also gave those with an agenda a way in to dictate, not forgetting the bots on so many sites. The &#8216;net was a communication refinement with instant reach and &#8212; given the way people flock to bad news &#8212; it became a swift way for some to influence and control the masses negatively.</p>
<p>I take your point about all connectivity being essential to our &#8216;story&#8217;, except I would begin with spoken language, and not just horses (though cavalry became very powerful and very useful.) Every advance is a double-edged sword, aiding ordinary people and equally assisting those in power with darker motives.</p>
<p>I too am utterly aware, as I said earlier, that I am using the internet to publish this. It helps me to stay connected, which is good, but that connectivity can be &#8212; and maybe too often is &#8212; either tainted, influenced or even unplugged. The internet can be controlled centrally, or as good as, and for now we peasants have certain allowances in its use. For now.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 15:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I don’t think ivermectin is an effective treatment against Covid-19.&quot;

What he thinks and the facts are not the same. In what must be the largest medical experiment in the history of planet earth was done on this subject in India. In all of India except for one province, where a pharm executive was in charge of heath care, they gave liberally Ivermectin. This was at a time where the news media was screaming their heads off about the huge rise of corona in India. In every single province EXCEPT for the one where they did not use Ivermectin corona crashed precipitously. Notice the media says not one damn word about India. They are saying they are going to prosecute the pharm executive and possibly execute her. I hope they do. The exact same results happened in Bangladesh where heath care is, not the best, but they threw Ivermectin at corona and I read a few days ago they had zero cases. Zero.

Many doctors even when threatened with dire punishment have given prescriptions for Ivermectin and have gotten good results or so I have read them say they have.

They know this. They can&#039;t help but know this. All these people who have died from corona and the vax have been murdered.

The only conclusion you can reach from this is they want to murder us all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t think ivermectin is an effective treatment against Covid-19.&#8221;</p>
<p>What he thinks and the facts are not the same. In what must be the largest medical experiment in the history of planet earth was done on this subject in India. In all of India except for one province, where a pharm executive was in charge of heath care, they gave liberally Ivermectin. This was at a time where the news media was screaming their heads off about the huge rise of corona in India. In every single province EXCEPT for the one where they did not use Ivermectin corona crashed precipitously. Notice the media says not one damn word about India. They are saying they are going to prosecute the pharm executive and possibly execute her. I hope they do. The exact same results happened in Bangladesh where heath care is, not the best, but they threw Ivermectin at corona and I read a few days ago they had zero cases. Zero.</p>
<p>Many doctors even when threatened with dire punishment have given prescriptions for Ivermectin and have gotten good results or so I have read them say they have.</p>
<p>They know this. They can&#8217;t help but know this. All these people who have died from corona and the vax have been murdered.</p>
<p>The only conclusion you can reach from this is they want to murder us all.</p>
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