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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alrenous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2021 09:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I usually adblock Isegoria comments. I turned it off for what I thought was a good reason, but immediately regretted it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually adblock Isegoria comments. I turned it off for what I thought was a good reason, but immediately regretted it.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2021 01:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim, my linguistic abilities and capacity to reason far exceed those of many who were subjected to the same conditioning, if I do say so myself. I choose me.

I&#039;ve tried to learn several foreign languages. I never made any real progress until I went overseas and was forced to use one. Now I&#039;m forgetting that one. But I&#039;m still me. I think in terms of concepts, not words. Always have, always will.

I went to a place where lots of people were wearing the damn face diapers even then, several years ago. I never wore one, because I was an American, damn it. I wasn&#039;t ashamed to show my face, and I wasn&#039;t going to live in fear of germs. But at least the natives didn&#039;t try to impose their fear on me. So we got along well enough.

Got vaccinated as a personal choice, and I support it - strictly as a personal choice. No mandate.

Some people are less susceptible to brainwashing than the rest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, my linguistic abilities and capacity to reason far exceed those of many who were subjected to the same conditioning, if I do say so myself. I choose me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried to learn several foreign languages. I never made any real progress until I went overseas and was forced to use one. Now I&#8217;m forgetting that one. But I&#8217;m still me. I think in terms of concepts, not words. Always have, always will.</p>
<p>I went to a place where lots of people were wearing the damn face diapers even then, several years ago. I never wore one, because I was an American, damn it. I wasn&#8217;t ashamed to show my face, and I wasn&#8217;t going to live in fear of germs. But at least the natives didn&#8217;t try to impose their fear on me. So we got along well enough.</p>
<p>Got vaccinated as a personal choice, and I support it &#8211; strictly as a personal choice. No mandate.</p>
<p>Some people are less susceptible to brainwashing than the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2021 00:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry, humans are hypersocial creatures. You were conceived, a priori without consent, to parents who you didn&#039;t choose in a society that you didn&#039;t get to choose. Your hypersensitive, hyperneuroplastic, helpless youngling self was subjected (SUBJECTED) to a merciless torrent of information-pain which gradually coalesced to your linguistic abilities and capacities of reason. The English language got its hooks into you and there&#039;s no way around it. And all we can choose is the last 1%: will we expose the chillunzes to a high-fidelity civilizational image or not? (The alternative is a disgusting psychological operation sponsored by international usurers and people who worship demons.) I vote for small-town America before its corruption and extinguishment. Death to the regime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry, humans are hypersocial creatures. You were conceived, a priori without consent, to parents who you didn&#8217;t choose in a society that you didn&#8217;t get to choose. Your hypersensitive, hyperneuroplastic, helpless youngling self was subjected (SUBJECTED) to a merciless torrent of information-pain which gradually coalesced to your linguistic abilities and capacities of reason. The English language got its hooks into you and there&#8217;s no way around it. And all we can choose is the last 1%: will we expose the chillunzes to a high-fidelity civilizational image or not? (The alternative is a disgusting psychological operation sponsored by international usurers and people who worship demons.) I vote for small-town America before its corruption and extinguishment. Death to the regime.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2021 00:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TRX, public education is a public good. Similarly, mass conscription is a public good. You may not &lt;i&gt;like&lt;/i&gt; the public good, but it is what it is. The alternative is a self-selected, increasingly siloed, increasingly hereditary soldiery. And that has consequences that you &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; aren&#039;t going to like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRX, public education is a public good. Similarly, mass conscription is a public good. You may not <i>like</i> the public good, but it is what it is. The alternative is a self-selected, increasingly siloed, increasingly hereditary soldiery. And that has consequences that you <i>really</i> aren&#8217;t going to like.</p>
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		<title>By: TRX</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2021 13:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;Only STEM and the trades were ever really about imparting information and know-how.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

STEM has been largely converged for some time now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Only STEM and the trades were ever really about imparting information and know-how.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>STEM has been largely converged for some time now.</p>
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		<title>By: TRX</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2021 13:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;Education is dictatorial. Like anything good…&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Unless we&#039;re using different vocabularies, there was very little &quot;good&quot; about my incarceration in the public school system.  I would probably have had a better chance at an education in the state&#039;s prison system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Education is dictatorial. Like anything good…&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Unless we&#8217;re using different vocabularies, there was very little &#8220;good&#8221; about my incarceration in the public school system.  I would probably have had a better chance at an education in the state&#8217;s prison system.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2021 11:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indoctrination is a thing to be imposed. Learning is something you choose.

All these arguments over &quot;education&quot; are really about indoctrination. A power struggle among competing brainwashing cults.

Only STEM and the trades were ever really about imparting information and know-how. Never trust anyone who says he wants to improve your mind.

But do trust someone who knows how to do something and is willing to show you. Not tell you. Show you.

Leave dropouts and troubled students to fend for themselves. They&#039;ll have a better chance that way. It may be they&#039;ve redpilled themselves. Let them out of the matrix.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indoctrination is a thing to be imposed. Learning is something you choose.</p>
<p>All these arguments over &#8220;education&#8221; are really about indoctrination. A power struggle among competing brainwashing cults.</p>
<p>Only STEM and the trades were ever really about imparting information and know-how. Never trust anyone who says he wants to improve your mind.</p>
<p>But do trust someone who knows how to do something and is willing to show you. Not tell you. Show you.</p>
<p>Leave dropouts and troubled students to fend for themselves. They&#8217;ll have a better chance that way. It may be they&#8217;ve redpilled themselves. Let them out of the matrix.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2021 23:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Let’s move to a free market.”

Thar ain’t no such thang, babe. No way, no how, no when. Education is dictatorial. Like anything good, it consists of a rich tapestry of value judgements made by a select few men of fine taste, such as myself. Retarded libertarians, such as yousself, want to outsource your decision-making process to muh market, believing that such a thing has ever existed outside of the shared dream of the Eternal Think Tank In The Sky. No offense, dawg.

Education is a thing to be imposed. People are not to be “free” to “choose”. It’s a fake dichotomy, naturally, as revealed by the readily observable fact that those who once stood for such quaint concepts as “freedom of speech on the Internet” now stand queeerly silent as everyone with a brain is banned not just from the latter-day public square owned and stage-managed by the AntiSocial Media Monopolies but also from every domain name registrar in the world other than that of the Soviet Union, from every “payment processor” (they’re private businesses, bro, they can do what they want), and many actual countries.

My worldview is the right worldview and it is only right and just that every sixteen-year-old grill in the world have been steeped in its self-evident truth and justice since birth.

God wills it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Let’s move to a free market.”</p>
<p>Thar ain’t no such thang, babe. No way, no how, no when. Education is dictatorial. Like anything good, it consists of a rich tapestry of value judgements made by a select few men of fine taste, such as myself. Retarded libertarians, such as yousself, want to outsource your decision-making process to muh market, believing that such a thing has ever existed outside of the shared dream of the Eternal Think Tank In The Sky. No offense, dawg.</p>
<p>Education is a thing to be imposed. People are not to be “free” to “choose”. It’s a fake dichotomy, naturally, as revealed by the readily observable fact that those who once stood for such quaint concepts as “freedom of speech on the Internet” now stand queeerly silent as everyone with a brain is banned not just from the latter-day public square owned and stage-managed by the AntiSocial Media Monopolies but also from every domain name registrar in the world other than that of the Soviet Union, from every “payment processor” (they’re private businesses, bro, they can do what they want), and many actual countries.</p>
<p>My worldview is the right worldview and it is only right and just that every sixteen-year-old grill in the world have been steeped in its self-evident truth and justice since birth.</p>
<p>God wills it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Illyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick Illyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2021 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone should be able to get this quality education.

We should create an educational endowments for each K-12 student. Student endowment funds would pay out for students who achieved grade level knowledge.

Instead of endless fights over charter schools, home schooling, etc. etc., all students would become customers for educational services and be treated accordingly.

Providers or home schoolers for students who did poorly would not be paid, leaving twice the annual amount available next year to educators who could catch them up.

Instead of leaving dropouts to fend for themselves, the funds would remain on deposit indefinitely, allowing those who got their act together after some time in the adult world to get an education.

Troubled students would have teachers and mentors who had a financial stake in the outcome. The dramatic difference in quality based on differences in community income levels would end.

Let&#039;s move to a free market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone should be able to get this quality education.</p>
<p>We should create an educational endowments for each K-12 student. Student endowment funds would pay out for students who achieved grade level knowledge.</p>
<p>Instead of endless fights over charter schools, home schooling, etc. etc., all students would become customers for educational services and be treated accordingly.</p>
<p>Providers or home schoolers for students who did poorly would not be paid, leaving twice the annual amount available next year to educators who could catch them up.</p>
<p>Instead of leaving dropouts to fend for themselves, the funds would remain on deposit indefinitely, allowing those who got their act together after some time in the adult world to get an education.</p>
<p>Troubled students would have teachers and mentors who had a financial stake in the outcome. The dramatic difference in quality based on differences in community income levels would end.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s move to a free market.</p>
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		<title>By: Bomag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bomag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2021 10:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;“In 12th grade, the college application process took over my sons’ lives.”&lt;/i&gt;

That is a troubling line, especially from Caplan and crew who grok the notion that modern ed has devolved into indoctrination camps that damage people and society. 

It did engage and energize them, so maybe there is some value in that; but it seems largely a narcissistic endeavor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“In 12th grade, the college application process took over my sons’ lives.”</i></p>
<p>That is a troubling line, especially from Caplan and crew who grok the notion that modern ed has devolved into indoctrination camps that damage people and society. </p>
<p>It did engage and energize them, so maybe there is some value in that; but it seems largely a narcissistic endeavor.</p>
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