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	<title>Comments on: The U.S. military should stop being one of the best suppliers of tactical instruction to the bad guys</title>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2021/08/the-u-s-military-should-stop-being-one-of-the-best-suppliers-of-tactical-instruction-to-the-bad-guys/comment-page-1/#comment-3410798</link>
		<dc:creator>VXXC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2021 19:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real question is: What did we learn from fighting them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is: What did we learn from fighting them?</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXXC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2021 18:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The training of your enemies at your hands, or us being trained at their hands is unavoidable in war, regardless of the &quot;technology&quot; involved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The training of your enemies at your hands, or us being trained at their hands is unavoidable in war, regardless of the &#8220;technology&#8221; involved.</p>
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		<title>By: vxxc</title>
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		<dc:creator>vxxc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2021 18:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“the moral is to the physical as three is to one.”

It&#039;s morale.  

Nothing to do with morals.  A full belly, good supply, good boots, the presence of the Emperor on the Battlefield, or for that matter drink and whores all raise morale, as would a sack of loot.

But it&#039;s not moral, none of it is moral.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“the moral is to the physical as three is to one.”</p>
<p>It&#8217;s morale.  </p>
<p>Nothing to do with morals.  A full belly, good supply, good boots, the presence of the Emperor on the Battlefield, or for that matter drink and whores all raise morale, as would a sack of loot.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not moral, none of it is moral.</p>
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		<title>By: Albion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2021 11:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the solutions to all this, though our feckless and cheaply-bought politicians propped up by insanely stupid &#039;experts&#039; would not agree, is to close the borders.

If the US or UK or any NATO force for that matter has trained enemies to kill us, then it is necessary to withdraw from enemy zones and close our borders to these places and people. We aren&#039;t going to do well fighting these trained (and now well-armed) terrorists on their land. On our land, it should be different as apart from the Quislings among our elite and marxist-media we have an advantage, and enough spine in the population to defend ourselves if allowed.

This closing of borders is not to deny trade or the free flow of goods, because it is possible to find a way to co-exist but keep all these dodgy characters at arm&#039;s length. If places like Afghanistan wish to buy our goods and they have something to sell we want, then we can find a way to trade that doesn&#039;t involve training and arming their trouble-makers, and then opening our doors to them to live among us.

Of course our weak leaders won&#039;t like it. They like open borders, because they and their greedy entourages make money from importing tens of thousands (soon to be millions) of low IQ immigrants into which it is easy for these trained enemies to insert fifth-columnists. This way war can be brought to our doorsteps.

Naturally our great and good &#039;leaders&#039; would soon flee to some (temporarily) safe haven when trouble explodes, leaving we peasants behind to suffer. First our troops are cannon-fodder, and then us at home.

Bring the troops home to defend our borders, stop fighting handicapped police action on their patch of earth and all the while imagining we are helping them embrace that clown-event called democracy when these people have no intention of allowing it in their own backyard anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the solutions to all this, though our feckless and cheaply-bought politicians propped up by insanely stupid &#8216;experts&#8217; would not agree, is to close the borders.</p>
<p>If the US or UK or any NATO force for that matter has trained enemies to kill us, then it is necessary to withdraw from enemy zones and close our borders to these places and people. We aren&#8217;t going to do well fighting these trained (and now well-armed) terrorists on their land. On our land, it should be different as apart from the Quislings among our elite and marxist-media we have an advantage, and enough spine in the population to defend ourselves if allowed.</p>
<p>This closing of borders is not to deny trade or the free flow of goods, because it is possible to find a way to co-exist but keep all these dodgy characters at arm&#8217;s length. If places like Afghanistan wish to buy our goods and they have something to sell we want, then we can find a way to trade that doesn&#8217;t involve training and arming their trouble-makers, and then opening our doors to them to live among us.</p>
<p>Of course our weak leaders won&#8217;t like it. They like open borders, because they and their greedy entourages make money from importing tens of thousands (soon to be millions) of low IQ immigrants into which it is easy for these trained enemies to insert fifth-columnists. This way war can be brought to our doorsteps.</p>
<p>Naturally our great and good &#8216;leaders&#8217; would soon flee to some (temporarily) safe haven when trouble explodes, leaving we peasants behind to suffer. First our troops are cannon-fodder, and then us at home.</p>
<p>Bring the troops home to defend our borders, stop fighting handicapped police action on their patch of earth and all the while imagining we are helping them embrace that clown-event called democracy when these people have no intention of allowing it in their own backyard anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Obaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2021 08:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the lives of military troops are at danger, the citizens of the United States must examine their leaders&#039; policy decisions with more vigilance than usual. The days of forcing America&#039;s will on others without consequence may be coming to an end. The spread of skills and technology, the increasing probability of messed-up urban operations, and the diminishing political desire for military adventurism should all serve as depressing reminders to our military commanders and policymakers. If the death of four soldiers shocks our country, we must reassess our willingness to put our troops in harm&#039;s path and when we are willing to do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the lives of military troops are at danger, the citizens of the United States must examine their leaders&#8217; policy decisions with more vigilance than usual. The days of forcing America&#8217;s will on others without consequence may be coming to an end. The spread of skills and technology, the increasing probability of messed-up urban operations, and the diminishing political desire for military adventurism should all serve as depressing reminders to our military commanders and policymakers. If the death of four soldiers shocks our country, we must reassess our willingness to put our troops in harm&#8217;s path and when we are willing to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Longmuir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Longmuir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2021 20:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;We have trained our enemy, and now we have given them weaponry. What comes after this should not surprise us.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I am not so concerned about the Taliban having some state-of-the-art weaponry which they will not be able to maintain.  I am more concerned about the Taliban selling samples of that military equipment to China &amp; Russia, who will take it apart, reverse engineer it, and find every possible weakness in sensors, communications gear, fuses, you name it.  And then modify their own weapons &amp; tactics accordingly.

Of course, we peons will never learn of this.  There will be some unreported crashes, equipment failures, misfires in US training exercises in various parts of the world.  And then the US Political Class will realize that they can never afford to go head to head with a peer competitor.  That leaves functional surrender as the only option.

On the other hand, some people say not to worry about this.  They assert China &amp; Russia have already stolen the designs to every weapon the US has (or bought them from the Clintons).  And China already supplies some of the key parts.

The nuclear triad is a good shield against anyone messing with the US.  But what practical value can the US get from the rest of the military in today&#039;s world?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;We have trained our enemy, and now we have given them weaponry. What comes after this should not surprise us.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I am not so concerned about the Taliban having some state-of-the-art weaponry which they will not be able to maintain.  I am more concerned about the Taliban selling samples of that military equipment to China &amp; Russia, who will take it apart, reverse engineer it, and find every possible weakness in sensors, communications gear, fuses, you name it.  And then modify their own weapons &amp; tactics accordingly.</p>
<p>Of course, we peons will never learn of this.  There will be some unreported crashes, equipment failures, misfires in US training exercises in various parts of the world.  And then the US Political Class will realize that they can never afford to go head to head with a peer competitor.  That leaves functional surrender as the only option.</p>
<p>On the other hand, some people say not to worry about this.  They assert China &amp; Russia have already stolen the designs to every weapon the US has (or bought them from the Clintons).  And China already supplies some of the key parts.</p>
<p>The nuclear triad is a good shield against anyone messing with the US.  But what practical value can the US get from the rest of the military in today&#8217;s world?</p>
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		<title>By: Toirdhealbheach Beucail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toirdhealbheach Beucail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2021 18:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;After Agesilaus King of Sparta was wounded in one of his many battles against Thebes, Antalcidas remonstrated, &#039;The Thebans pay you well for having taught them to fight, which they were neither willing nor able to do before&#039;.&quot; &#8212; Sayings of the Spartans

We have trained our enemy, and now we have given them weaponry.  What comes after this should not surprise us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;After Agesilaus King of Sparta was wounded in one of his many battles against Thebes, Antalcidas remonstrated, &#8216;The Thebans pay you well for having taught them to fight, which they were neither willing nor able to do before&#8217;.&#8221; &mdash; Sayings of the Spartans</p>
<p>We have trained our enemy, and now we have given them weaponry.  What comes after this should not surprise us.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2021 17:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This article has been OVERTAKEN BY EVENTS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article has been OVERTAKEN BY EVENTS.</p>
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		<title>By: Adar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2021 15:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;humans are more important than hardware.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Especially for the Islamic groups, &quot;the moral is to the physical as three is to one.&quot;

Thank Napoleon for that observation and comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;humans are more important than hardware.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Especially for the Islamic groups, &#8220;the moral is to the physical as three is to one.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank Napoleon for that observation and comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sykes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Sykes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2021 12:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like the Taliban, ISIS was originally our creation. We hoped to use it as a tool to evict. Assad. We are still supporting some other al-Qaeda groups that are fighting Assad.

Once upon a time, ISIS had seized the Syrian oil fields and was exporting oil via long truck convoys running up the Euphrates Valley to a port on the Turkish coast. The US military was ordered to allow it. The Turks collected import/export fees from ISIS. This stopped only when the Russians showed up and started bombing the convoys.

We didn&#039;t oppose ISIS until they decided to form their own country in the Euphrates Valley and invaded Iraq.

We are still supporting al-Qaeda groups. We might still be supporting a somewhat tamed ISIS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the Taliban, ISIS was originally our creation. We hoped to use it as a tool to evict. Assad. We are still supporting some other al-Qaeda groups that are fighting Assad.</p>
<p>Once upon a time, ISIS had seized the Syrian oil fields and was exporting oil via long truck convoys running up the Euphrates Valley to a port on the Turkish coast. The US military was ordered to allow it. The Turks collected import/export fees from ISIS. This stopped only when the Russians showed up and started bombing the convoys.</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t oppose ISIS until they decided to form their own country in the Euphrates Valley and invaded Iraq.</p>
<p>We are still supporting al-Qaeda groups. We might still be supporting a somewhat tamed ISIS.</p>
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