Comments on: Cadets with lower grades improved academically if they socialized with cadets with high GPAs https://www.isegoria.net/2021/07/cadets-with-lower-grades-improved-academically-if-they-socialized-with-cadets-with-high-gpas/ From the ancient Greek for equality in freedom of speech; an eclectic mix of thoughts, large and small Sat, 22 Aug 2026 01:15:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.1 By: VXXC https://www.isegoria.net/2021/07/cadets-with-lower-grades-improved-academically-if-they-socialized-with-cadets-with-high-gpas/comment-page-1/#comment-3390412 VXXC Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:08:04 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=48089#comment-3390412 Duty vs. Tasks: We need courage not intelligence to be entrusted with Duties.

Intelligence is for performing TASKS.

Duty requires COURAGE, moral and physical.

Meet our Elites and their striving Managerial Class: We selected for intelligence and ended up with sociopaths dominating smart cowards.

Yes, it’s true across the board in our elites and certainly in the Army. I saw and see nothing in the Air Force to indicate the pattern does not hold.

]]> By: Gwern https://www.isegoria.net/2021/07/cadets-with-lower-grades-improved-academically-if-they-socialized-with-cadets-with-high-gpas/comment-page-1/#comment-3390406 Gwern Thu, 29 Jul 2021 18:43:01 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=48089#comment-3390406 “Carrell and West started by identifying which of the 1,314 incoming cadets had lower SAT scores and GPAs. These were the students most at risk of dropping out. They were assigned to special squadrons with a makeup of extra numbers of high-achievers.”

I haven’t read the study in question, but as described, this is nothing but regression to the mean. You filtered out and selected extremes on a noisy measure (SAT/GPA) who were, however, admitted based on their strengths elsewhere, and then you find that later on, additional noisy measures are higher rather than also extremely low. Regression to the mean.

]]> By: McChuck https://www.isegoria.net/2021/07/cadets-with-lower-grades-improved-academically-if-they-socialized-with-cadets-with-high-gpas/comment-page-1/#comment-3390388 McChuck Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:21:42 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=48089#comment-3390388 Wow, it’s almost like the researchers and social engineers had never met actual human people before.

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