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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2021/06/they-aim-to-tame-the-beast/comment-page-1/#comment-3380868</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 21:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bomag says, &lt;em&gt;&quot;I’d say the disinformation is winning.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Completely wrong. A state of not knowing the truth is far different, and better, from what we had before when we thought we knew the truth and it was wrong.

When you think you know the truth and it is all lies you can not be prompted to correct what is wrong. When you know things are wrong, even if you are not sure exactly what the path is, you can start to make decisions that lead you to where you wish to be.

We are there.

They are failing.

An example, some 25% or so of the Republican voters believe that the world is run by satan worshiping pedophiles. While this may not be true. The J--s may have pretended to be satanist so that anyone talking about their perversions would not be taken seriously now even their lies can be believed because they&#039;ve screwed up so bad(who knows maybe they are).

Their lies also have become so blatant that everyone knows they are lying because...they have no other mental skill set. A large number of them or at least these that run things are psychopaths and they can not judge the metal make up of people accurately as they are not people they are human animals. Their mental make up is exactly the same as humans were before civilization because it&#039;s obvious you can&#039;t have civilization run by psychopaths or actually animals. Just like each lion territory doesn&#039;t have room for many lions. Their mental make up doesn&#039;t allow for it.

If everything you do is built on lies eventually the lies catch up with you.

Even when they tell the partial truth about other groups of people,&quot;Vatican runs everything&quot;, &quot;Queen of England runs everything&quot;, etc. in reality they are outing a little bit of truth about how corrupt another group of evil psychopaths are and if you look they ALWAYS tie into whatever evil is afoot. Hence the phrase &quot;Every Single Time&quot;.

Since they have screwed up so bad they are outing most everyone that is with them to try and push the truth back in the box. All these that they push forward to repeat their lies eventually become burnt because they say one thing and do another. Eventually most people will think like me because there&#039;s only so many people they can push put there to repeat their lies until people realize who is the ringleader of the whole operation.

Now they are trying to do something drastic to forestall this, UFO&#039;s, vax, but this is not working. I don&#039;t know the exact numbers but a link said 37% of Americans have taken the vax. If this vax is a kill shot by causing cytokine storm or other ill effects there&#039;s going to be a lot of super pissed people and they are not going to be able to cover this up. The mere fact that that many people do not trust them is big indicator. Probably why they are rolling out the UFO&#039;s.

It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if UFO&#039;s nuked a few cities but since all their supporters live in cities this will not help them in the end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bomag says, <em>&#8220;I’d say the disinformation is winning.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Completely wrong. A state of not knowing the truth is far different, and better, from what we had before when we thought we knew the truth and it was wrong.</p>
<p>When you think you know the truth and it is all lies you can not be prompted to correct what is wrong. When you know things are wrong, even if you are not sure exactly what the path is, you can start to make decisions that lead you to where you wish to be.</p>
<p>We are there.</p>
<p>They are failing.</p>
<p>An example, some 25% or so of the Republican voters believe that the world is run by satan worshiping pedophiles. While this may not be true. The J&#8211;s may have pretended to be satanist so that anyone talking about their perversions would not be taken seriously now even their lies can be believed because they&#8217;ve screwed up so bad(who knows maybe they are).</p>
<p>Their lies also have become so blatant that everyone knows they are lying because&#8230;they have no other mental skill set. A large number of them or at least these that run things are psychopaths and they can not judge the metal make up of people accurately as they are not people they are human animals. Their mental make up is exactly the same as humans were before civilization because it&#8217;s obvious you can&#8217;t have civilization run by psychopaths or actually animals. Just like each lion territory doesn&#8217;t have room for many lions. Their mental make up doesn&#8217;t allow for it.</p>
<p>If everything you do is built on lies eventually the lies catch up with you.</p>
<p>Even when they tell the partial truth about other groups of people,&#8221;Vatican runs everything&#8221;, &#8220;Queen of England runs everything&#8221;, etc. in reality they are outing a little bit of truth about how corrupt another group of evil psychopaths are and if you look they ALWAYS tie into whatever evil is afoot. Hence the phrase &#8220;Every Single Time&#8221;.</p>
<p>Since they have screwed up so bad they are outing most everyone that is with them to try and push the truth back in the box. All these that they push forward to repeat their lies eventually become burnt because they say one thing and do another. Eventually most people will think like me because there&#8217;s only so many people they can push put there to repeat their lies until people realize who is the ringleader of the whole operation.</p>
<p>Now they are trying to do something drastic to forestall this, UFO&#8217;s, vax, but this is not working. I don&#8217;t know the exact numbers but a link said 37% of Americans have taken the vax. If this vax is a kill shot by causing cytokine storm or other ill effects there&#8217;s going to be a lot of super pissed people and they are not going to be able to cover this up. The mere fact that that many people do not trust them is big indicator. Probably why they are rolling out the UFO&#8217;s.</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if UFO&#8217;s nuked a few cities but since all their supporters live in cities this will not help them in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Bomag</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2021/06/they-aim-to-tame-the-beast/comment-page-1/#comment-3380862</link>
		<dc:creator>Bomag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 11:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;“I can’t say I know what’s going on as there’s so much disinformation... The internet has opened up the truth like never before and they are losing control.”&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;d say the disinformation is winning.  The internet has opened up a venue for truth dropping; but it has amplified the ability to repeat lies and swamp the debate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“I can’t say I know what’s going on as there’s so much disinformation&#8230; The internet has opened up the truth like never before and they are losing control.”</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d say the disinformation is winning.  The internet has opened up a venue for truth dropping; but it has amplified the ability to repeat lies and swamp the debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2021/06/they-aim-to-tame-the-beast/comment-page-1/#comment-3380847</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2021 11:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;Even, dare I say it, trvst the plan.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I DO NOT trust the plan. There have been to many errors. Many steps that could have been taken that would have soured the US and other citizens on the deep State were not taken.

The certifying of Biden as President should not have happened. They said,&quot;We have it all&quot;, but did nothing. If they did do something the results where not consequential enough to matter.

It appears to me they are just stringing us along. A lot of &quot;just wait&quot;, &quot;in two weeks&quot;, &quot;any minute now&quot;. pftt...

At the same time I do realize they have gassed the termites out of the woodwork. They are scrambling all over and it&#039;s plain to see. That 25%, at least, of Republican voters say they believe that the world is run by Satan worshiping pedophiles is a huge step forward.

The question is can they effect change, real change, before they unleash another virus or the possibility that the vaccine has a kill switch in it that will cause mass casualties? &quot;If&quot; the vaccine is a weapon then they will find themselves in even deeper trouble cause the people who won&#039;t take it are much more likely to hate them in the first place and at some point a spark will be lit, I have no idea what or when, and mass murder will commence.

Many who are not too deep in it but involved will wish they had not been because at this point no one will care. Either they were not involved or they were and will get the rope.

And BTW the whole ufo nonsense is just a bunch of guys flying around in a &quot;inertia drive&quot; craft that pushes against the inertia of the universe instead of expelling matter. The Air Force should run a crash program to make one of these, put a super fast high velocity gun on it and blast these f--kers to hell and back.

No one and I mean no one will believe these are invading aliens. Invading aliens would be far more technologically advanced and we would never see them at all.

They would have us believe that aliens come all the way across the galaxy to anal probe people and cut the anuses out of cows. Sure...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Even, dare I say it, trvst the plan.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I DO NOT trust the plan. There have been to many errors. Many steps that could have been taken that would have soured the US and other citizens on the deep State were not taken.</p>
<p>The certifying of Biden as President should not have happened. They said,&#8221;We have it all&#8221;, but did nothing. If they did do something the results where not consequential enough to matter.</p>
<p>It appears to me they are just stringing us along. A lot of &#8220;just wait&#8221;, &#8220;in two weeks&#8221;, &#8220;any minute now&#8221;. pftt&#8230;</p>
<p>At the same time I do realize they have gassed the termites out of the woodwork. They are scrambling all over and it&#8217;s plain to see. That 25%, at least, of Republican voters say they believe that the world is run by Satan worshiping pedophiles is a huge step forward.</p>
<p>The question is can they effect change, real change, before they unleash another virus or the possibility that the vaccine has a kill switch in it that will cause mass casualties? &#8220;If&#8221; the vaccine is a weapon then they will find themselves in even deeper trouble cause the people who won&#8217;t take it are much more likely to hate them in the first place and at some point a spark will be lit, I have no idea what or when, and mass murder will commence.</p>
<p>Many who are not too deep in it but involved will wish they had not been because at this point no one will care. Either they were not involved or they were and will get the rope.</p>
<p>And BTW the whole ufo nonsense is just a bunch of guys flying around in a &#8220;inertia drive&#8221; craft that pushes against the inertia of the universe instead of expelling matter. The Air Force should run a crash program to make one of these, put a super fast high velocity gun on it and blast these f&#8211;kers to hell and back.</p>
<p>No one and I mean no one will believe these are invading aliens. Invading aliens would be far more technologically advanced and we would never see them at all.</p>
<p>They would have us believe that aliens come all the way across the galaxy to anal probe people and cut the anuses out of cows. Sure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2021 07:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;“I saw a press conference, live, he gave in the rose garden but someone a few blocks away proved he wasn’t even there. He could see most of what was going on and sirens blaring where he was was not on the TV. Fake.”&lt;/em&gt;

I saw that. I have the video somewhere, available upon request.

&lt;em&gt;“I can’t say I know what’s going on as there’s so much disinformation but Biden is not totally in control of the US State and we don’t know what’s going to happen.”&lt;/em&gt;

I concur. It doesn’t &lt;i&gt;feel&lt;/i&gt; like the Biden puppeteer cliquists are meaningfully commanding the security apparatus.

So expect the unexpected.

Even, dare I say it, trvst the plan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“I saw a press conference, live, he gave in the rose garden but someone a few blocks away proved he wasn’t even there. He could see most of what was going on and sirens blaring where he was was not on the TV. Fake.”</em></p>
<p>I saw that. I have the video somewhere, available upon request.</p>
<p><em>“I can’t say I know what’s going on as there’s so much disinformation but Biden is not totally in control of the US State and we don’t know what’s going to happen.”</em></p>
<p>I concur. It doesn’t <i>feel</i> like the Biden puppeteer cliquists are meaningfully commanding the security apparatus.</p>
<p>So expect the unexpected.</p>
<p>Even, dare I say it, trvst the plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2021 07:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martin Gurri is a liar.

Is Biden even President? He signs things NOT in the oval office. It&#039;s a set somewhere. The White house is frequently dark at night some say he&#039;s not in nor ever been in it. Marines do not salute him. It&#039;s obvious that the election were stolen the evidence is overwhelming.

I saw a press conference, live, he gave in the rose garden but someone a few blocks away proved he wasn&#039;t even there. He could see most of what was going on and sirens blaring where he was was not on the TV. Fake.

I can&#039;t say I know what&#039;s going on as there&#039;s so much disinformation but Biden is not totally in control of the US State and we don&#039;t know what&#039;s going to happen.

Part the reason that people are not rising up and blazing away at each other is...that&#039;s what the deep State wants. We kill each other off while they egg it on.

I think it possible if they can get a Coastal States v. Central US States civil war going then they could bring in UN troops,supplies and a mass of Chinese from the ports, and defeat the Central States.

People think owning guns will save them but if they are evil enough to just exterminate everything then guns will likely not save them.

Of course the idiot Coastal elites think they will defeat the Central States but in all likelihood under this situation the Chinese would waste them too and take the US for themselves. Everything they need is here. Water, crop land, everything.

That there&#039;s a conspiracy is obvious. Every since 9-11 where buildings with 3 or 4 floors on fire fall over a hundred feet with zero support.

I &quot;think&quot; that all the corona attacks and possible vax death shots are a desperate measure of the deep State, likely mostly orchestrated by the J__s.

The internet has opened up the truth like never before and they are losing control. This is all a big hail Mary and it may work, may not. I expect not because a lot of people are not being vaxed and when all their family dies off they are going to be pissed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin Gurri is a liar.</p>
<p>Is Biden even President? He signs things NOT in the oval office. It&#8217;s a set somewhere. The White house is frequently dark at night some say he&#8217;s not in nor ever been in it. Marines do not salute him. It&#8217;s obvious that the election were stolen the evidence is overwhelming.</p>
<p>I saw a press conference, live, he gave in the rose garden but someone a few blocks away proved he wasn&#8217;t even there. He could see most of what was going on and sirens blaring where he was was not on the TV. Fake.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say I know what&#8217;s going on as there&#8217;s so much disinformation but Biden is not totally in control of the US State and we don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s going to happen.</p>
<p>Part the reason that people are not rising up and blazing away at each other is&#8230;that&#8217;s what the deep State wants. We kill each other off while they egg it on.</p>
<p>I think it possible if they can get a Coastal States v. Central US States civil war going then they could bring in UN troops,supplies and a mass of Chinese from the ports, and defeat the Central States.</p>
<p>People think owning guns will save them but if they are evil enough to just exterminate everything then guns will likely not save them.</p>
<p>Of course the idiot Coastal elites think they will defeat the Central States but in all likelihood under this situation the Chinese would waste them too and take the US for themselves. Everything they need is here. Water, crop land, everything.</p>
<p>That there&#8217;s a conspiracy is obvious. Every since 9-11 where buildings with 3 or 4 floors on fire fall over a hundred feet with zero support.</p>
<p>I &#8220;think&#8221; that all the corona attacks and possible vax death shots are a desperate measure of the deep State, likely mostly orchestrated by the J__s.</p>
<p>The internet has opened up the truth like never before and they are losing control. This is all a big hail Mary and it may work, may not. I expect not because a lot of people are not being vaxed and when all their family dies off they are going to be pissed.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Longmuir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Longmuir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 21:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike:  &lt;i&gt;&quot;the USSR swapped one set of Cool Kids for another in 1937.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

But the structure of the USSR remained through those internal conflicts, until the gerontocratic Soviet Cool Kids lost control in 1991 and the USSR joined the British Empire, Roman Empire, etc in the dustbin of history.

History is fairly consistent that Ruling Classes which grow too big, too expensive, and too inefficient do not last.  That is where our current Political Class is heading.  History does not give us a clear answer on what will replace our present worthless clique of Cool Kids.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:  <i>&#8220;the USSR swapped one set of Cool Kids for another in 1937.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>But the structure of the USSR remained through those internal conflicts, until the gerontocratic Soviet Cool Kids lost control in 1991 and the USSR joined the British Empire, Roman Empire, etc in the dustbin of history.</p>
<p>History is fairly consistent that Ruling Classes which grow too big, too expensive, and too inefficient do not last.  That is where our current Political Class is heading.  History does not give us a clear answer on what will replace our present worthless clique of Cool Kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in Boston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike in Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 18:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;“history tells us unequivocally how it will end for the Cool Kids... the USSR...”&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t think history is that consistent. For example, the USSR swapped one set of Cool Kids for another in 1937.

&lt;i&gt;“the powers that be have gotten over the surprise shock of disruption, gotten their acts together... and adapted”&lt;/i&gt;

This is the evil genius of the two-party system. If the Globetrotters get too complacent and starts to lose its edge, the Washington Wizards will start to look like a serious threat, forcing the Globetrotters to get their collective act together.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“history tells us unequivocally how it will end for the Cool Kids&#8230; the USSR&#8230;”</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think history is that consistent. For example, the USSR swapped one set of Cool Kids for another in 1937.</p>
<p><i>“the powers that be have gotten over the surprise shock of disruption, gotten their acts together&#8230; and adapted”</i></p>
<p>This is the evil genius of the two-party system. If the Globetrotters get too complacent and starts to lose its edge, the Washington Wizards will start to look like a serious threat, forcing the Globetrotters to get their collective act together.</p>
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		<title>By: Handle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 16:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you search Kling&#039;s place, you&#039;ll see I&#039;ve been using this &quot;A New Hope&quot; vs. &quot;The Empire Strikes Back&quot; metaphor criticizing Gurri&#039;s thesis for years, and indeed, told it to him in person about 4.5 years ago.

The problem is that Gurri&#039;s original thesis was stated in a confident and adamant manner that media elites had *lost* control in a completely irreversible manner in a progressive phenomena that could only increase in strength and severity.  That is altogether inconsistent with any kind of &quot;resurgence&quot; or striking back, and he has done nothing to explain why this should have been possible at all.

Neither does he amend or refine his original thesis to account or allow for it, or even to explain why we shouldn&#039;t expect this striking back and reversal to be permanent, now that the powers that be have gotten over the surprise shock of disruption, gotten their acts together in new business models, and adapted to the new media reality, developing even more powerful tools, techniques, and systems of control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you search Kling&#8217;s place, you&#8217;ll see I&#8217;ve been using this &#8220;A New Hope&#8221; vs. &#8220;The Empire Strikes Back&#8221; metaphor criticizing Gurri&#8217;s thesis for years, and indeed, told it to him in person about 4.5 years ago.</p>
<p>The problem is that Gurri&#8217;s original thesis was stated in a confident and adamant manner that media elites had *lost* control in a completely irreversible manner in a progressive phenomena that could only increase in strength and severity.  That is altogether inconsistent with any kind of &#8220;resurgence&#8221; or striking back, and he has done nothing to explain why this should have been possible at all.</p>
<p>Neither does he amend or refine his original thesis to account or allow for it, or even to explain why we shouldn&#8217;t expect this striking back and reversal to be permanent, now that the powers that be have gotten over the surprise shock of disruption, gotten their acts together in new business models, and adapted to the new media reality, developing even more powerful tools, techniques, and systems of control.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Longmuir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Longmuir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 15:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The comments on Martin Gurri&#039;s article in City  Journal are interesting -- and not at all favorable!

Gurri is certainly correct that the Cool Kids (&lt;i&gt;very far from being &quot;Elites&quot; in any meaningful sense of the word&lt;/i&gt;) are focused on pleasing each other, not on doing things for their populations or customers.  

This has all happened before, and history tells us unequivocally how it will end for the Cool Kids -- check the Persian Empire, the Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the British Empire, the USSR.

The only question is whether the Cool Kids end up like the once all-powerful British aristocracy as impoverished dwellers in dank decaying old mansions or like the French aristocracy staring at the guillotine after a 10 minute trial.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments on Martin Gurri&#8217;s article in City  Journal are interesting &#8212; and not at all favorable!</p>
<p>Gurri is certainly correct that the Cool Kids (<i>very far from being &#8220;Elites&#8221; in any meaningful sense of the word</i>) are focused on pleasing each other, not on doing things for their populations or customers.  </p>
<p>This has all happened before, and history tells us unequivocally how it will end for the Cool Kids &#8212; check the Persian Empire, the Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the British Empire, the USSR.</p>
<p>The only question is whether the Cool Kids end up like the once all-powerful British aristocracy as impoverished dwellers in dank decaying old mansions or like the French aristocracy staring at the guillotine after a 10 minute trial.</p>
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		<title>By: Nameless Pessimist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nameless Pessimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 13:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nah, just another dumb take from Martin Gurri. Isegoria doesn&#039;t know, but nothing happens unplanned. The pandemic was man-made, oil is over, civilization is ending.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, just another dumb take from Martin Gurri. Isegoria doesn&#8217;t know, but nothing happens unplanned. The pandemic was man-made, oil is over, civilization is ending.</p>
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