Comments on: Students at high-achieving schools exhibit much higher rates of anxiety, depression, and substance abuse

By: Vetrani Sui Sunt Circuli

Vetrani Sui Sunt Circuli — Wed, 23 Jun 2021 23:21:21 +0000

“Students at high-achieving schools exhibit much higher rates of anxiety, depression, and substance abuse.”

I’ve met their parents. Who rule over us. So…GOOD.

This is the most cheerful thing I’ve read all day. Thank you, Isegoria!

By: Felix

Felix — Sun, 20 Jun 2021 23:11:57 +0000

Non paywall URL for one of the referenced papers:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1948879/

It seems their input mechanism is self-report questionnaires from the kids.

Like a lot of “science” papers, the paper is all interpretation. Pre-github. No data. Like: How many questionnaires were left blank or were clearly bogus noise from kids having fun or being suspicious.

The paper says eating with a parent is good.

They emphasized that rich kids tended to have families that hid troubles, implying that might skew results. Kinda implied contrast: Opposite skews that might come from rich families having the money (and culture?) to support expensive psych labeling.

Peer pressure gets some text. Pretty girls being the “popular girls” in the rich schools, for instance. And “substance abuse” being admirable in the popular rich boys. Sounds like Hollywood teen shows are mirrors. :) Or vice versa.

By: Bomag

Bomag — Sun, 20 Jun 2021 15:22:33 +0000

I recall an older theater critic reflecting that the top stars are the unhappy ones; the second tier performers are more based and satisfied.

Plenty of early deaths among movie stars who seemingly had all possible success. The drive to excel can overwhelm the feedback loop.

By: McChuck

McChuck — Sun, 20 Jun 2021 14:52:49 +0000

Wow, imagine that. Stress-related/relieving behaviors are correlated with stressful situations. Who’da thunk it?

By: Green Hoyos

Green Hoyos — Sun, 20 Jun 2021 12:34:33 +0000

See, I wonder if there’s a valley here, because it’s not like the worst off schools don’t have serious problems like this I imagine.

By: VXXC

VXXC — Sun, 20 Jun 2021 12:29:21 +0000

O/T but Turkey continues to lead in Drone Warfare.

Mostly it was successful loitering and not being defeated by air defenses or electronic warfare, allowing other systems such as air strikes and artillery to take out the enemy. Success most pronounced in Nagorno-Karabakh, however also in Syria, Libya.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2021/06/business-in-baltics-latvia-expresses.html

I think the commoditization of chips and the easy access to knowledge and skills from the internet is beginning to tell for mankind. IOW smaller powers can now leap ahead where before it was industry, steel, oil.