If the Jews had not taken over Russia and destroyed the whole economy of Germany then it wouldn’t have happened in the first place so who exactly should have been run “through the camps”?

If the Nazis were so evil in killing 6 million Jews, false, then how evil were the Jews who ran the Soviet Union.

Solzhenitsyn says 60 million died. We can easily see well over 20 million without any even of the slightest exaggeration and surely it’s way, way more. What should should be the price for that?

Now if your average German, they were all Nazis after the Jews had completely destroyed the whole economy and put the entire wealth of the country in their pocket. The Germans were willing to vote for anyone but the Jew run candidates. If they deserved to die then how many Jews deserved to die for the slaughter in the USSR? A number please. All of them???

You have to bear in mind… There are still an awful lot of people who feel that the “wrong side” won WWII, and that Germany should have been allowed the freedom to do whatever they wanted to all those unwashed Eastern European types, ‘cos most of them were dirty Jews or the next thing to them, Slavs. After all, what is the root word for Slav, but slave…?

Personally, I think they should have kept the camps open after the war, and run every single card-carrying member of the Nazi Party through them so that they could join the literal “ash heap of history”. Then, I’d have herded all the fellow-travelers in the Allied nations through and begun on the Communists, but by that time, I’m pretty sure someone would have assassinated me.

A pox on all their houses. The monsters of the left, which includes the Nazis, should have all been put down at the same time, and it’s a pity they weren’t.

G: I want Sudeten. Or war.
F & E: Ok, you will get Sudeten, but you promise that’s all and you will behave.
G: Of course. Ah, I forgot to tell you, I want Czechia too, but that’s it, I don’t want anything else
F & E: OK
G: I want Danzig and referendum in Pomerania. Or I will attack Poland
F & E: Listen, if you will attack Poland, we will declare war on you. We want to be no misunderstandings this time: absolutely, without doubts, if you attack Poland, we will attack you.
G: no you won’t
F & E: <after three days declares war on Germany
G: …

In 1939, Germany was an “astronomically” rising industrial power poised to economically and militarily eclipse the British Empire and its satellites. Since certain successful preventative measures undertaken swiftly and with prejudice, the Germans have been good little boys.

In the year 2021, can you hear history beginning to rhyme?

The entire world is going ahistorical, which if it isn’t an actual usage, damn well should be.

Once upon a time, I was tasked to research Vietnam-era route clearance operations. In so doing, I found and checked out a copy of the Rand Corporation study on said subject. That study had been in the US Army Engineer School library since the early 1970s, and had been checked out a grand total of two times–Once by an officer writing a paper sometime in the late ’70s, and then by me, in the early 1990s.

Reading that book, I discovered that the Army had commissioned Hughes Aerospace to do a study on the potential use of thermal imaging to spot mines with. I was amazed–I did not know that we’d had such devices in that period. Flippin’ things were jeep-mounted, but we had ‘em. Turns out, they don’t work for spotting mines or IED-type things all that well.

Several months later, I’m still working the side project, and the boss comes back from some symposium and tells me that they’re working all sorts of trick new technology in the post-Desert Storm era for finding mines and so forth out in the desert, and would I be so good as to contact the contractor… Which was the successor corporation to Hughes Aerospace. So, I do. After hours and hours of phone tag in the pre-email era, I get in touch with the program manager and we exchange contact info so he can send me what he has. In the course of the conversation, it transpires that a.) he knows nothing about anything before he started working for Hughes in the late 1980s, and b.) he had no idea that Hughes had ever done anything for the Army in terms of research into using thermal imaging to find mines. He was shocked and amazed to find out that they’d done it already, in Vietnam…

I gave him the citations for what I’d found in the Rand studies, and heard back from him a few weeks later after he’d had time to pull up everything from the corporate archives. Turns out, had he but known about all that prior effort, he’d have saved Hughes and the Army a butt-ton of money, because the Vietnam-era studies basically rendered all of his preliminary research moot and meaningless–They could have gone on to other issues much earlier than they did.

Nobody knew–Not the contracting officer that tasked them, not the corporate guys that made the contract, not the researchers, and not the idiots who’d started the whole ball rolling at the Engineer School, whose library was where I’d found one of the few extant copies of that study.

‘Effing mind-boggling, TBH. I don’t know how many self-proclaimed “subject matter experts” there were working on those issues at the time, but apparently, none of them had bothered to do any basic research in their own friggin’ library. That was about the time I started paying attention and noticing just how few of the “commissioned elite” actually read any history, or could even hold an intelligent conversation about any of it. Frighteningly few, I’m here to tell you. I feel fairly safe in saying that, as a lower enlisted swine? I probably was better-read than about 99% of the people I worked for and around, when it came to the basics of our profession. Hell, my personal library was bigger than some of the ones maintained by field-grades–I maxed out my weight allowance for professional materials every time I moved, and many of them didn’t even know there was a weight allowance specifically for that purpose, let alone had call to use it.

“Classically” — there’s the word! According to some polls, the rising generation in the US is mostly unsure of which countries were allied with the US in WWII, with lots of them not even knowing about WWII. Winston Churchill reportedly said: “A nation that forgets its past has no future”. Test now in progress.

The issue is not restricted to the West. I had a conversation with an intelligent educated young Russian a few years back. He had never heard of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and frankly could not believe that Russia had partnered with Germany and invaded Poland.

You look at things from the perspective of what’s classically been taught and indoctrinated here in the US since WWII, and there’s just a tremendous amount of self-serving covering up of facts and distortions of the records to make everyone look good. The US media refuses to analyze all the encomiums they delivered about Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin–Or, how deep in the tank they were for all of them. So, the Big Lie goes on. And, on.

However, you go look at things from what the other players/victims were seeing and going through, and the story is going to be far different. And, maybe just as distorted, from an honestly objective viewpoint…

One of the things that really annoys me about the Russian/Soviet expressed viewpoint is that they play up the “victim” thing to a truly massive degree, while simultaneously ignoring what they did to enable Hitler and the Nazis. It’s like all that tacit support their program got in the French Chamber of Deputies didn’t exist, or that the COMINTERN wasn’t dictating actions to the French Communist parties…

Honest truth, at this point? Figuring out what it was would require a really deep dive into the archives, probably some cracking of heads because the people who knew have successors that don’t want the story out any more than they did back then, and a lot of honest introspection over the whole era.

Well yes, because POlish politicians (at least according the memoirs published after the war) thought that would be slippery slope leading to vassalage. Plus you have to take things in context: and the context was Munich. When Czechia agreed to cede Sudeten, was promised anything, and then was practically incorporated into Reich. With Hitler, there were assurances that there was absolutely nothing which would stand in a way of Polish-German friendship (and the relationships seems to me to be more warm than most modern Polish historians would want to admit, though it seems Hitler never actually made official offer besides some vague sentences like “Odessa is a port too”), and then, after taking Czechia, changing the mind and suddenly seeing great injustices which just have to be corrected.

BTW, supposedly Pilsudski made an offer to the French to make preventive war with Germany. Again supposedly he made that offer in 1933 expecting French would refuse, just to prepare the ground for renegotiation of POlish-French alliance, or, in some other articles, to force Germany to end the cold war. Many historians however doubt such an offer was actually made.

The US did a wonderful thing after WWII — with a generous Marshall Plan instead of a punitive Treaty of Versailles, which put Europe on a path for decades of peace.

The point about thinking about such topics is to seek to inform ourselves what to do now about the future we might be able to influence, not the past we cannot change. Just what kind of treaties & guarantees should the West be giving to the Ukraine or to Taiwan? History suggests we should be very careful about what we commit to!