Comments on: Reiteration, argument, lies, confusion, and the application of force and fear https://www.isegoria.net/2021/03/reiteration-argument-lies-confusion-and-the-application-of-force-and-fear/ From the ancient Greek for equality in freedom of speech; an eclectic mix of thoughts, large and small Thu, 28 May 2026 23:08:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.1 By: ATP https://www.isegoria.net/2021/03/reiteration-argument-lies-confusion-and-the-application-of-force-and-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-3370376 ATP Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:37:25 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=47482#comment-3370376 Gavin, Fehrenbach was not an idiot. As I recall he himself pointed out the language issue in his book. It was by no means the only reason for Turkish resilience in the POW camps, and likely not even the main one.

]]> By: Goober https://www.isegoria.net/2021/03/reiteration-argument-lies-confusion-and-the-application-of-force-and-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-3370095 Goober Fri, 05 Mar 2021 21:45:49 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=47482#comment-3370095 “The Chinese instructors found the POW’s knew almost nothing of civics or the mechanics of American government, and of this they made big play. The fact that American soldiers knew so little, they said, proved that the ruling interests wanted it so.”

I suppose one would have little chance of explaining to them that the reason that so many Americans are ignorant of the workings of our government is because we have that luxury.  The concept of a government just not having that much to do with day in and day out life was likely so foreign to them that they could never have understood.  

What so many write off to American ignorance is often actually just the privilege of being an American; we’re able to be ignorant of government, because government just isn’t that damn important to us.  

]]> By: Gavin Longmuir https://www.isegoria.net/2021/03/reiteration-argument-lies-confusion-and-the-application-of-force-and-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-3370054 Gavin Longmuir Fri, 05 Mar 2021 15:09:13 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=47482#comment-3370054 Of course, the greater availability of Chinese who spoke English than Turkish had no impact on the brain-washing program.

At times, this book just gets silly. Enough!

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