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	<title>Comments on: We should embrace the Cassandras when the next disaster comes</title>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/12/we-should-embrace-the-cassandras-when-the-next-disaster-comes/comment-page-1/#comment-3322696</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 01:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VXXC says, &lt;em&gt;&quot;There is no ^vaccine^ for the evils these men did.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Gavin Longmuir says, &lt;em&gt;&quot;Indeed, Democrats in places like New York did the opposite and put the old &amp; sick in nursing homes into deadly danger.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I have a theory that the rise and fall of civilizations in roughly 300 year patterns is the time it takes for an empire to slowly allow the rise of psychopaths to move up into positions of power. As they do things get more and more corrupt and the gas lighting of the public gets more and more blatant. What we are seeing now is the end of this process. Psychopaths are great at moving up in organizations but they could care less about actually making them work. They only care about feeding on them, manipulating people and pushing destruction. Destruction is exciting to them and they are bored.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VXXC says, <em>&#8220;There is no ^vaccine^ for the evils these men did.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Gavin Longmuir says, <em>&#8220;Indeed, Democrats in places like New York did the opposite and put the old &amp; sick in nursing homes into deadly danger.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I have a theory that the rise and fall of civilizations in roughly 300 year patterns is the time it takes for an empire to slowly allow the rise of psychopaths to move up into positions of power. As they do things get more and more corrupt and the gas lighting of the public gets more and more blatant. What we are seeing now is the end of this process. Psychopaths are great at moving up in organizations but they could care less about actually making them work. They only care about feeding on them, manipulating people and pushing destruction. Destruction is exciting to them and they are bored.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sykes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Sykes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 14:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The number of cases and deaths in any pandemic depend upon the number of people susceptible to the disease at the beginning. This number is a genetic property of the population. Lockdowns and masks, etc., do not prevent deaths or cases. They merely slow the rate of spread so that hospitals and medical people are not overwhelmed.

This is standard epidemiology, and it was explained at the beginning by experts like Fauci. However, at some point people, even the experts in public, began to think that the ultimate number of deaths and cases could be diminished. They can&#039;t be.

The Cassandras are unknowingly correct in so far as total deaths and cases is concerned. But they are wrong to believe anything can be done about it. 

Fate/Karma, the Will of God, whatever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number of cases and deaths in any pandemic depend upon the number of people susceptible to the disease at the beginning. This number is a genetic property of the population. Lockdowns and masks, etc., do not prevent deaths or cases. They merely slow the rate of spread so that hospitals and medical people are not overwhelmed.</p>
<p>This is standard epidemiology, and it was explained at the beginning by experts like Fauci. However, at some point people, even the experts in public, began to think that the ultimate number of deaths and cases could be diminished. They can&#8217;t be.</p>
<p>The Cassandras are unknowingly correct in so far as total deaths and cases is concerned. But they are wrong to believe anything can be done about it. </p>
<p>Fate/Karma, the Will of God, whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a hint of increasingly desperate shrillness to the lecturing of these people. I think they&#039;re beginning to sense that we&#039;re not buying it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a hint of increasingly desperate shrillness to the lecturing of these people. I think they&#8217;re beginning to sense that we&#8217;re not buying it.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXXC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 02:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me entertain the CDC and Branch Covidians. Let me believe the data doesn’t lie. 

What is the death count from COVID? As opposed to the lockdown death count? 

Not that any of that has to do with shuttered churches, small businesses destroyed, woke ones richer by trillions stolen, or stealing the White House. And its just getting started.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me entertain the CDC and Branch Covidians. Let me believe the data doesn’t lie. </p>
<p>What is the death count from COVID? As opposed to the lockdown death count? </p>
<p>Not that any of that has to do with shuttered churches, small businesses destroyed, woke ones richer by trillions stolen, or stealing the White House. And its just getting started.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Longmuir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Longmuir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2020 23:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cassandra&#039;s prophecies were correct -- but ignored.  The people whose prophecies were ignored this time around were the ones noticing the very low infection rate and the even lower death rate on the cruise ship Diamond Princess.  But their advice to keep calm and protect the old &amp; sick was ignored.  Indeed, Democrats in places like New York did the opposite and put the old &amp; sick in nursing homes into deadly danger.

The Cassandra&#039;s today -- the ones we should have paid attention to -- were the ones predicting that unnecessary never-ending Lock Downs would have a very damaging long-term effect on the economy, and that the long-term consequences of unnecessarily disrupting education for school children would be major.

But we have to sympathize with Megan McArdle, who has bills to pay.  The Washington Post would not publish anything contrary to the conventional wisdom of the DC Swamp herd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cassandra&#8217;s prophecies were correct &#8212; but ignored.  The people whose prophecies were ignored this time around were the ones noticing the very low infection rate and the even lower death rate on the cruise ship Diamond Princess.  But their advice to keep calm and protect the old &amp; sick was ignored.  Indeed, Democrats in places like New York did the opposite and put the old &amp; sick in nursing homes into deadly danger.</p>
<p>The Cassandra&#8217;s today &#8212; the ones we should have paid attention to &#8212; were the ones predicting that unnecessary never-ending Lock Downs would have a very damaging long-term effect on the economy, and that the long-term consequences of unnecessarily disrupting education for school children would be major.</p>
<p>But we have to sympathize with Megan McArdle, who has bills to pay.  The Washington Post would not publish anything contrary to the conventional wisdom of the DC Swamp herd.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2020 23:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VXXC,

Check out this graph of per-week, total deaths straight from the CDC:

https://public.tableau.com/profile/dataviz8737#!/vizhome/COVID_excess_mort_withcauses_12302020/WeeklyExcessDeaths

Change the drop-down to individual states like Oregon, Hawaii, NJ, and NY to get a feel for state variance.

The CDC page this graph is from:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

There are similar graphs out there on the Internet for Euro+ countries. They look and vary like the US states.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VXXC,</p>
<p>Check out this graph of per-week, total deaths straight from the CDC:</p>
<p><a href="https://public.tableau.com/profile/dataviz8737#!/vizhome/COVID_excess_mort_withcauses_12302020/WeeklyExcessDeaths" >https://public.tableau.com/profile/dataviz8737#!/vizhome/COVID_excess_mort_withcauses_12302020/WeeklyExcessDeaths</a></p>
<p>Change the drop-down to individual states like Oregon, Hawaii, NJ, and NY to get a feel for state variance.</p>
<p>The CDC page this graph is from:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm" >https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm</a></p>
<p>There are similar graphs out there on the Internet for Euro+ countries. They look and vary like the US states.</p>
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		<title>By: James James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2020 21:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[https://apnews.com/article/us-coronavirus-deaths-top-3-million-e2bc856b6ec45563b84ee2e87ae8d5e7

US deaths in 2020 top 3 million, by far most ever counted
22 December  2020]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://apnews.com/article/us-coronavirus-deaths-top-3-million-e2bc856b6ec45563b84ee2e87ae8d5e7" >https://apnews.com/article/us-coronavirus-deaths-top-3-million-e2bc856b6ec45563b84ee2e87ae8d5e7</a></p>
<p>US deaths in 2020 top 3 million, by far most ever counted<br />
22 December  2020</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXXC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2020 21:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[US deaths 2019; 2.9M
US deaths 2020; 2.5M 

2.5M is the bottom of range for decade, below average. 

Megan Mcardle and Bezos aren’t bankrupt, therefore USA is not bankrupt.

I don’t recall Cassandra taking billions from Greeks, nor profiting Trillions from the sack of Troy.  

COVID kills the people who would normally die from Flu. 

COVID is a real disease that is a miracle for the Democrats.
Annus Mirablis; they got to destroy the economy, steal 10$Trillion, destroy small business, ban churchgoing, burn down the cities to demonstrate raw power to urban hipsters and steal the White House. 

There is no ^ vaccine^ for the evils these men did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US deaths 2019; 2.9M<br />
US deaths 2020; 2.5M </p>
<p>2.5M is the bottom of range for decade, below average. </p>
<p>Megan Mcardle and Bezos aren’t bankrupt, therefore USA is not bankrupt.</p>
<p>I don’t recall Cassandra taking billions from Greeks, nor profiting Trillions from the sack of Troy.  </p>
<p>COVID kills the people who would normally die from Flu. </p>
<p>COVID is a real disease that is a miracle for the Democrats.<br />
Annus Mirablis; they got to destroy the economy, steal 10$Trillion, destroy small business, ban churchgoing, burn down the cities to demonstrate raw power to urban hipsters and steal the White House. </p>
<p>There is no ^ vaccine^ for the evils these men did.</p>
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		<title>By: Roo Ster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roo Ster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2020 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What Bruce Charlton wrote, with bells on it.  The Branch Kovidians have suffered not a whit of calumny due to their hysteria-mongering.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Bruce Charlton wrote, with bells on it.  The Branch Kovidians have suffered not a whit of calumny due to their hysteria-mongering.</p>
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		<title>By: Roo Ster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roo Ster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2020 19:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again the childless former sort of libertarian rump swabs the ruling class.  

A good rule of thumb these days is that if the source does not allow comments, it is not worth the time to read it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again the childless former sort of libertarian rump swabs the ruling class.  </p>
<p>A good rule of thumb these days is that if the source does not allow comments, it is not worth the time to read it.</p>
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