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	<title>Comments on: Here are three ways that education funding might look different a decade from now</title>
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		<title>By: RLVC</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/12/here-are-three-ways-that-education-funding-might-look-different-a-decade-from-now/comment-page-1/#comment-3314903</link>
		<dc:creator>RLVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 05:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreein’ with the Fenian...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreein’ with the Fenian&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXXC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2020 01:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am afraid I&#039;m thinking like the congenital Feinian Bastard I am...

Although indeed i can sympathize with Mr. Beale.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am afraid I&#8217;m thinking like the congenital Feinian Bastard I am&#8230;</p>
<p>Although indeed i can sympathize with Mr. Beale.</p>
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		<title>By: RLVC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2020 21:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VXXC is thinking like an investor.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Why do the local school administrators agree to go from middle class and upper middle class to having to find another career?

Why does a $739,000,000,000 dollar business — and yes it is of course a business — with real power cease to exist?

Why does the Progressive Left Religion agree to surrender the servitude of children to their indoctrination and as importantly the tax serfdom of the entire community?

Because the ‘model is inefficient’?

ROFL LMAO
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;//www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9XeyBd_IuA”&quot;&gt;Go forth and conquer.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VXXC is thinking like an investor.</p>
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Why do the local school administrators agree to go from middle class and upper middle class to having to find another career?</p>
<p>Why does a $739,000,000,000 dollar business — and yes it is of course a business — with real power cease to exist?</p>
<p>Why does the Progressive Left Religion agree to surrender the servitude of children to their indoctrination and as importantly the tax serfdom of the entire community?</p>
<p>Because the ‘model is inefficient’?</p>
<p>ROFL LMAO
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="//www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9XeyBd_IuA”">Go forth and conquer.</a></p>
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		<title>By: vxxc</title>
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		<dc:creator>vxxc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2020 16:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Hugh,

Sir,

You are mixing not apples with oranges, but apples with serial killers.  I can accept returning to a society where schooling was a private responsibility and public schools were supported by donations, as opposed to child labor and tax serfdom. Indeed I consider State mandated schooling to be a violation of the First Amendment, because the state schools do now and indeed always have taught the official religion.  

I cannot accept a society without prisons, except perhaps on the older Roman or indeed older English model wherein the offender was dead, exiled or otherwise taken out of circulation.  I agree the prisons are failing and my solution is stated.

As for the point on timocracy that time has passed, we are into oligarchic anarchy, indeed anarcho-tyranny.  Timocracy would be an improvement.

Cheers and Happy Holidays.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Hugh,</p>
<p>Sir,</p>
<p>You are mixing not apples with oranges, but apples with serial killers.  I can accept returning to a society where schooling was a private responsibility and public schools were supported by donations, as opposed to child labor and tax serfdom. Indeed I consider State mandated schooling to be a violation of the First Amendment, because the state schools do now and indeed always have taught the official religion.  </p>
<p>I cannot accept a society without prisons, except perhaps on the older Roman or indeed older English model wherein the offender was dead, exiled or otherwise taken out of circulation.  I agree the prisons are failing and my solution is stated.</p>
<p>As for the point on timocracy that time has passed, we are into oligarchic anarchy, indeed anarcho-tyranny.  Timocracy would be an improvement.</p>
<p>Cheers and Happy Holidays.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2020 21:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This Notice publishes the annual determination of average cost of incarceration for the Fiscal Years (FY) 2016 and 2017. The fee to cover the average cost of incarceration for Federal inmates was $34,704.12 ($94.82 per day) in FY 2016 and $36,299.25 ($99.45 per day) in FY 2017.&quot;

(Source: The U.S. Federal Register)

Vs.

Overall, K-12 spending in the U.S. was $739 billion in 2016-17, or $14,439 per student, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

And yes, I realize these are not directly comparable, given that students are not in school 365 days/yr. But what do both schools &amp; prisons have in common? Neither is satisfied with the already vast sums of money they&#039;re receiving. And both are increasingly selling-out to the &quot;private&quot; sector, despite that sector continuing to receive public monies. And both are nearly completely failing.

&quot;The accumulation of gold in the treasury of private individuals is the ruin of timocracy; they invent illegal modes of expenditure; for what do they or their wives care about the law?... And then one, seeing another grow rich, seeks to rival him, and thus the great mass of the citizens become lovers of money.... And so at last, instead of loving contention and glory, men become lovers of trade and money; they honor and look up to the rich man, and make a ruler of him, and dishonor the poor man.&quot;

&#8212; Plato]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This Notice publishes the annual determination of average cost of incarceration for the Fiscal Years (FY) 2016 and 2017. The fee to cover the average cost of incarceration for Federal inmates was $34,704.12 ($94.82 per day) in FY 2016 and $36,299.25 ($99.45 per day) in FY 2017.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Source: The U.S. Federal Register)</p>
<p>Vs.</p>
<p>Overall, K-12 spending in the U.S. was $739 billion in 2016-17, or $14,439 per student, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.</p>
<p>And yes, I realize these are not directly comparable, given that students are not in school 365 days/yr. But what do both schools &amp; prisons have in common? Neither is satisfied with the already vast sums of money they&#8217;re receiving. And both are increasingly selling-out to the &#8220;private&#8221; sector, despite that sector continuing to receive public monies. And both are nearly completely failing.</p>
<p>&#8220;The accumulation of gold in the treasury of private individuals is the ruin of timocracy; they invent illegal modes of expenditure; for what do they or their wives care about the law?&#8230; And then one, seeing another grow rich, seeks to rival him, and thus the great mass of the citizens become lovers of money&#8230;. And so at last, instead of loving contention and glory, men become lovers of trade and money; they honor and look up to the rich man, and make a ruler of him, and dishonor the poor man.&#8221;</p>
<p>&mdash; Plato</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXXC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2020 17:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do the local school administrators agree to go from middle class and upper middle class to having to find another career? 

Why does a $739,000,000,000 dollar business &#8212; and yes it is of course a business &#8212; with real power cease to exist?

Why does the Progressive Left Religion agree to surrender the servitude of children to their indoctrination and as importantly the tax serfdom of the entire community? 

Because the &#039;model is inefficient&#039;? 

ROFL LMAO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do the local school administrators agree to go from middle class and upper middle class to having to find another career? </p>
<p>Why does a $739,000,000,000 dollar business &mdash; and yes it is of course a business &mdash; with real power cease to exist?</p>
<p>Why does the Progressive Left Religion agree to surrender the servitude of children to their indoctrination and as importantly the tax serfdom of the entire community? </p>
<p>Because the &#8216;model is inefficient&#8217;? </p>
<p>ROFL LMAO</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sykes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Sykes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2020 14:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aside for a further increase in state aid, I don&#039;t see much changing. The core issue will always be local control of the schools.

The model based on student needs/underachievement will founder on genetics: the &quot;bad&quot; schools are filled with low IQ students (and teachers).

The &quot;learner validated&quot; model would have such hugh, racially offensive results that it simply cannot even be contemplated. It also is the exact opposite of the needs-based model.

The current mix on on-line and in-person teaching also has racial and economic class implications. Mainly, the on-line portion is actually unavailable to many poor students, and the idea that low income parents will effectively supervise the in-home, on-line learning of their children is absurd in the extreme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside for a further increase in state aid, I don&#8217;t see much changing. The core issue will always be local control of the schools.</p>
<p>The model based on student needs/underachievement will founder on genetics: the &#8220;bad&#8221; schools are filled with low IQ students (and teachers).</p>
<p>The &#8220;learner validated&#8221; model would have such hugh, racially offensive results that it simply cannot even be contemplated. It also is the exact opposite of the needs-based model.</p>
<p>The current mix on on-line and in-person teaching also has racial and economic class implications. Mainly, the on-line portion is actually unavailable to many poor students, and the idea that low income parents will effectively supervise the in-home, on-line learning of their children is absurd in the extreme.</p>
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