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	<title>Comments on: Southern and Western politicians deployed federal state capitalism to do an end run around unsympathetic Yankee capitalists, not to advance toward socialism or social democracy</title>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2020 06:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Total fantasy. He doesn&#039;t mention the Jews at all. He mentions J.P. Morgan but doesn&#039;t mention J.P. Morgan was mostly an agent for the Rothschilds.

It like explaining nails being driven into boards without explaining that hammers were doing the driving. MAGIC! Look at those nails driving themselves into boards!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Total fantasy. He doesn&#8217;t mention the Jews at all. He mentions J.P. Morgan but doesn&#8217;t mention J.P. Morgan was mostly an agent for the Rothschilds.</p>
<p>It like explaining nails being driven into boards without explaining that hammers were doing the driving. MAGIC! Look at those nails driving themselves into boards!</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXXC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 22:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lind is seeing something and telling us all, perhaps himself it is something else. 

The idea that the Left is &#039;The Puritans&#039; or The WASPs is part of the dissident right, part not all.  This concept does not bear scrutiny based upon the facts today, or of our lifetimes.  The WASPS are long gone, certainly the idea that they rule somewhere is fantasy.  The WASPS lost power in the 1960s, England&#039;s House of Lords has more power, and actually still sort of exists.  The WASPS do not. 

Lind dissembles, he may even believe his own theory, but it is nonsense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lind is seeing something and telling us all, perhaps himself it is something else. </p>
<p>The idea that the Left is &#8216;The Puritans&#8217; or The WASPs is part of the dissident right, part not all.  This concept does not bear scrutiny based upon the facts today, or of our lifetimes.  The WASPS are long gone, certainly the idea that they rule somewhere is fantasy.  The WASPS lost power in the 1960s, England&#8217;s House of Lords has more power, and actually still sort of exists.  The WASPS do not. </p>
<p>Lind dissembles, he may even believe his own theory, but it is nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Altitude Zero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Altitude Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2020 13:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lind isn&#039;t seeing nothing, but this is way, way oversimplified, and processed through his own odd ideological lense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lind isn&#8217;t seeing nothing, but this is way, way oversimplified, and processed through his own odd ideological lense.</p>
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		<title>By: Ezra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ezra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2020 15:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jewish and Italian gangsters too became prominent during the period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jewish and Italian gangsters too became prominent during the period.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dunno from WASPS. I&#039;m not young, but I&#039;m not old enough to remember when they ran the show.

I do know that any elite class will grow as large as we let it and do whatever and as much as they can get away with. Don&#039;t blame them for it. It&#039;s just human nature, Human nature abhors a power vacuum.

Topple the elite, and another will take its place, just as arrogant. Push back steadily and effectively against whatever elite you have, and you can manage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno from WASPS. I&#8217;m not young, but I&#8217;m not old enough to remember when they ran the show.</p>
<p>I do know that any elite class will grow as large as we let it and do whatever and as much as they can get away with. Don&#8217;t blame them for it. It&#8217;s just human nature, Human nature abhors a power vacuum.</p>
<p>Topple the elite, and another will take its place, just as arrogant. Push back steadily and effectively against whatever elite you have, and you can manage.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Purcell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Purcell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2020 01:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“The Federal machine has been expanded to truly gigantic size. There are about one hundred thousand more men on the Federal payroll, as employees, than before In their selection the merit system has been disregarded and partisan influence prevailed. Many millions now live on Federal funds supplied by the Roosevelt administration, millions more have obtained cash from the Treasury. For all practical purposes the Administration has had a campaign fund of ten billions of [1930 US] dollars. Roosevelt has a monopoly of radio and the overwhelming support of most newspapers.”

Frank Kent, &lt;em&gt;Without Gloves&lt;/em&gt; collection of columns from the thirties. 

We&#039;ve had a Democratic ruling party amounting to a one-party state since the early 1930&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The Federal machine has been expanded to truly gigantic size. There are about one hundred thousand more men on the Federal payroll, as employees, than before In their selection the merit system has been disregarded and partisan influence prevailed. Many millions now live on Federal funds supplied by the Roosevelt administration, millions more have obtained cash from the Treasury. For all practical purposes the Administration has had a campaign fund of ten billions of [1930 US] dollars. Roosevelt has a monopoly of radio and the overwhelming support of most newspapers.”</p>
<p>Frank Kent, <em>Without Gloves</em> collection of columns from the thirties. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve had a Democratic ruling party amounting to a one-party state since the early 1930&#8242;s.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXXC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2020 00:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isegoria,

Bit Pollyannaish excerpt, and Mr. Lind down the article ignores not only what happened the last 50 years but what is happening now.  I have to wonder if he read his own article. 

From the article by Lind.

1] I wonder if he read his own words?
2] &quot;What has happened is that the formerly unified, mostly Northern mainline Protestant American establishment has—perhaps temporarily—broken down, allowing the actual diversity of interests and opinions in the United States to be expressed rather than suppressed. &quot; 

&lt;em&gt;Oh, is that all.&lt;/em&gt;  

Well, nothing to worry about.
Except that no body is running things.

The old WASPs [I&#039;m a &#039;white ethnic&#039; BTW] knew how to run things...the &#039;ethnic successors&#039; of the WASPs know only how to run things into the ground.  As far as expressing diversity of interests, they express diversity of interests in the Balkans too.  

3] The Old Social Gospel was grounded in pushing pro-social behaviors, the new woke gospel ...more accurately Sharia BTW...is grounded in anti-social behaviors, self destructive behaviors. 

4] Diamond Jim Fisk and the other social climbing thieves would have been kept out of polite society, we have them running the treasury. 

5] As Mr. Lind points out the new Woke class wishes to humiliate and degrade it&#039;s opponents: I don&#039;t recall the old ruling class doing so.  Being patronizing and allowing them to be treated as 2d class citizens or allowing segregation - yes. 
Open insults and humiliation of the commons?  No. 
Stalin would have had all these people shot acting this way. 

Bake the Cake or we&#039;ll ruin you /= the new WASPS.
These people are the STASI on the high end and BLM, AntiFa and street gangsters for the middle and low.

It is the height of incompetence to use power to humiliate and degrade, but that is what we have. 

6] The old WASPs washed no ones feet. 

You&#039;re not looking at America in the 1930s.
You&#039;re looking at either Spain or Germany in the 1930s.  At present it more resembles Spain, but if someone on the Right and let me be blunt the White grabs the Brass Ring of Power that Trump fumbled...you are no longer looking at Spain. 

What isn&#039;t going to happen is these psychotic train wrecks remain in power long.  They lack the grit evil to be evil tyrants, they&#039;re more the Karen gone completely insane mode.  You have to have grit, you have to have men to hold what they inherited, a stolen election by Asperger&#039;s Faceborg and the likes of Kamala Harris and DeBlasio.  You have to have men of Iron to do that, not Boys of Soy. 

All that happened is the people who have been ruining us since the 1960s are finishing up on their ruin.  Something else will replace and overthrow them...all we can say is something else will be stronger than them.  Rather a low bar...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isegoria,</p>
<p>Bit Pollyannaish excerpt, and Mr. Lind down the article ignores not only what happened the last 50 years but what is happening now.  I have to wonder if he read his own article. </p>
<p>From the article by Lind.</p>
<p>1] I wonder if he read his own words?<br />
2] &#8220;What has happened is that the formerly unified, mostly Northern mainline Protestant American establishment has—perhaps temporarily—broken down, allowing the actual diversity of interests and opinions in the United States to be expressed rather than suppressed. &#8221; </p>
<p><em>Oh, is that all.</em>  </p>
<p>Well, nothing to worry about.<br />
Except that no body is running things.</p>
<p>The old WASPs [I'm a 'white ethnic' BTW] knew how to run things&#8230;the &#8216;ethnic successors&#8217; of the WASPs know only how to run things into the ground.  As far as expressing diversity of interests, they express diversity of interests in the Balkans too.  </p>
<p>3] The Old Social Gospel was grounded in pushing pro-social behaviors, the new woke gospel &#8230;more accurately Sharia BTW&#8230;is grounded in anti-social behaviors, self destructive behaviors. </p>
<p>4] Diamond Jim Fisk and the other social climbing thieves would have been kept out of polite society, we have them running the treasury. </p>
<p>5] As Mr. Lind points out the new Woke class wishes to humiliate and degrade it&#8217;s opponents: I don&#8217;t recall the old ruling class doing so.  Being patronizing and allowing them to be treated as 2d class citizens or allowing segregation &#8211; yes.<br />
Open insults and humiliation of the commons?  No.<br />
Stalin would have had all these people shot acting this way. </p>
<p>Bake the Cake or we&#8217;ll ruin you /= the new WASPS.<br />
These people are the STASI on the high end and BLM, AntiFa and street gangsters for the middle and low.</p>
<p>It is the height of incompetence to use power to humiliate and degrade, but that is what we have. </p>
<p>6] The old WASPs washed no ones feet. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re not looking at America in the 1930s.<br />
You&#8217;re looking at either Spain or Germany in the 1930s.  At present it more resembles Spain, but if someone on the Right and let me be blunt the White grabs the Brass Ring of Power that Trump fumbled&#8230;you are no longer looking at Spain. </p>
<p>What isn&#8217;t going to happen is these psychotic train wrecks remain in power long.  They lack the grit evil to be evil tyrants, they&#8217;re more the Karen gone completely insane mode.  You have to have grit, you have to have men to hold what they inherited, a stolen election by Asperger&#8217;s Faceborg and the likes of Kamala Harris and DeBlasio.  You have to have men of Iron to do that, not Boys of Soy. </p>
<p>All that happened is the people who have been ruining us since the 1960s are finishing up on their ruin.  Something else will replace and overthrow them&#8230;all we can say is something else will be stronger than them.  Rather a low bar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2020 23:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m left with the impression that Adam Smith style free enterprise was not a contender.

If the Yankee financial establishment won&#039;t serve your interests, why not make an alternative establishment? Yeah, it&#039;s a lot of work. But they had already had plenty of time. The Civil War was many decades in the past.

Perhaps it&#039;s the culture of the South that was a lost cause.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m left with the impression that Adam Smith style free enterprise was not a contender.</p>
<p>If the Yankee financial establishment won&#8217;t serve your interests, why not make an alternative establishment? Yeah, it&#8217;s a lot of work. But they had already had plenty of time. The Civil War was many decades in the past.</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s the culture of the South that was a lost cause.</p>
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