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	<title>Comments on: War could never be part of a system of checks and balances</title>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2020 00:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps the real purpose of the Nuremberg trials was to shore up the fantasy of the perfectibility of human society - a notion that had taken two terrible beatings in two World Wars.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the real purpose of the Nuremberg trials was to shore up the fantasy of the perfectibility of human society &#8211; a notion that had taken two terrible beatings in two World Wars.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 21:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trying to apply the legalistic worldview to a situation that has already spun entirely out of control of the legal system is entirely insane, and always has been.

The Nazis and Communists during WWII were not acting within the bounds of any legal system; so trying to bring them to &quot;justice&quot; for not following the dictates of one? Laughable. The Nuremberg trials were a sad joke, and what should have happened would have been public identifications, readings of the the confirmed acts by the parties under adjudication, and then swift justice applied via a bullet in the back of the neck.

Once you get to the point where people are shooting each other and dropping bombs on communities? Yeah; cut to the f**king chase, and be done with it. None of that is &quot;moral&quot;, it isn&#039;t inside any kind of legal framework. It&#039;s the exercise of raw military power, and trying to dress it up as some kind of &quot;police action&quot; is insane. You have what the Arabs call the &quot;House of Peace&quot; and the &quot;House of War&quot;. Once you pass through the one into the other, rules on either side of the line no longer apply. If you&#039;re at war, it&#039;s raw strength against raw strength, and you kill him before he kills you. The leadership which started the war, if not victorious? Let them suffer the fate they visited upon all the soldiers involved, and put them down like mad dogs. The charges levied against the &quot;criminals&quot; at Nuremberg were entirely fatuous and irrelevant--What conqueror has ever been subject to legalities? Was Alexander brought before a tribunal? The law of conquest is not the law of peace and amicable relations.

All of the Nazis should have been made to pass under the yoke on their way to the death camps they built for everyone else, same with the Japanese imperialists. That we attempted to apply peacetime standards and laws? A sad, sad joke.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to apply the legalistic worldview to a situation that has already spun entirely out of control of the legal system is entirely insane, and always has been.</p>
<p>The Nazis and Communists during WWII were not acting within the bounds of any legal system; so trying to bring them to &#8220;justice&#8221; for not following the dictates of one? Laughable. The Nuremberg trials were a sad joke, and what should have happened would have been public identifications, readings of the the confirmed acts by the parties under adjudication, and then swift justice applied via a bullet in the back of the neck.</p>
<p>Once you get to the point where people are shooting each other and dropping bombs on communities? Yeah; cut to the f**king chase, and be done with it. None of that is &#8220;moral&#8221;, it isn&#8217;t inside any kind of legal framework. It&#8217;s the exercise of raw military power, and trying to dress it up as some kind of &#8220;police action&#8221; is insane. You have what the Arabs call the &#8220;House of Peace&#8221; and the &#8220;House of War&#8221;. Once you pass through the one into the other, rules on either side of the line no longer apply. If you&#8217;re at war, it&#8217;s raw strength against raw strength, and you kill him before he kills you. The leadership which started the war, if not victorious? Let them suffer the fate they visited upon all the soldiers involved, and put them down like mad dogs. The charges levied against the &#8220;criminals&#8221; at Nuremberg were entirely fatuous and irrelevant&#8211;What conqueror has ever been subject to legalities? Was Alexander brought before a tribunal? The law of conquest is not the law of peace and amicable relations.</p>
<p>All of the Nazis should have been made to pass under the yoke on their way to the death camps they built for everyone else, same with the Japanese imperialists. That we attempted to apply peacetime standards and laws? A sad, sad joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 17:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like the nations of old Europe, the Indian tribes also had a system of checks and balances. Young men earned their feathers by attacking other tribes and stealing their women and horses. Tribal chieftains often smoked the peace pipe and made treaties that their young men would soon break, because war was the only way they could ever become chieftains.

The Americans had no interest in playing this game, and when the Indians tried it on them, they got annihilated. China fared a bit better, only because of the sheer number of bodies they could throw at the Americans, and because MacArthur was not allowed to bomb their supply lines.

America has been the pivot-point of world power for a century, and might be so for a century to come. Nations win wars not by defeating America on the battlefield but by using their fellow travelers in Washington, New York, Hollywood, and Silicon Valley to co-opt or subvert American power. Even Joe McCarthy underestimated how deeply riddled the country was with Communist sympathizers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the nations of old Europe, the Indian tribes also had a system of checks and balances. Young men earned their feathers by attacking other tribes and stealing their women and horses. Tribal chieftains often smoked the peace pipe and made treaties that their young men would soon break, because war was the only way they could ever become chieftains.</p>
<p>The Americans had no interest in playing this game, and when the Indians tried it on them, they got annihilated. China fared a bit better, only because of the sheer number of bodies they could throw at the Americans, and because MacArthur was not allowed to bomb their supply lines.</p>
<p>America has been the pivot-point of world power for a century, and might be so for a century to come. Nations win wars not by defeating America on the battlefield but by using their fellow travelers in Washington, New York, Hollywood, and Silicon Valley to co-opt or subvert American power. Even Joe McCarthy underestimated how deeply riddled the country was with Communist sympathizers.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 14:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The United States did a decent job of making a continent safe for democracy. Perhaps trying to make the world safe for democracy was overreach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The United States did a decent job of making a continent safe for democracy. Perhaps trying to make the world safe for democracy was overreach.</p>
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