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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/10/it-does-not-present-a-grand-universal-rational-system/comment-page-1/#comment-3277952</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 13:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Sam J.

That is exactly right. Start at 5:25 in this video to see KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov&#039;s description of the Marxist subversion process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPsKvG6WMI

&quot;Your leftists in the United States... all these professors and civil rights defenders... they are instrumental in the process of subversion... but only to destabilize the nation... when the job is completed, they are not needed anymore... When they see when Marxists/Leninists come to power, they get offended - they think THEY will come to power! That will never happen of course, they will be lined up against the wall and shot.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sam J.</p>
<p>That is exactly right. Start at 5:25 in this video to see KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov&#8217;s description of the Marxist subversion process:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPsKvG6WMI" >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPsKvG6WMI</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Your leftists in the United States&#8230; all these professors and civil rights defenders&#8230; they are instrumental in the process of subversion&#8230; but only to destabilize the nation&#8230; when the job is completed, they are not needed anymore&#8230; When they see when Marxists/Leninists come to power, they get offended &#8211; they think THEY will come to power! That will never happen of course, they will be lined up against the wall and shot.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/10/it-does-not-present-a-grand-universal-rational-system/comment-page-1/#comment-3277885</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;“First, if you are a high IQ individual you are more amenable and comfortable with abstraction, system-building, and rationality.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I think the key here is that in all these systems the &quot;intellectuals&quot;, or those that think they are, believe they will be the ones making the rules. Being in charge. Telling everyone what to do. But it never works out that way. The psychopaths, the seriously violent and ruthless mow everyone down in their path, take charge and shoot the silly assed intellectual scribblers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“First, if you are a high IQ individual you are more amenable and comfortable with abstraction, system-building, and rationality.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I think the key here is that in all these systems the &#8220;intellectuals&#8221;, or those that think they are, believe they will be the ones making the rules. Being in charge. Telling everyone what to do. But it never works out that way. The psychopaths, the seriously violent and ruthless mow everyone down in their path, take charge and shoot the silly assed intellectual scribblers.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucklucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucklucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2020 18:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;This argument makes sense if applied to an ideology like classical Marxism.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Since when Marxism is Coherent? It is Marxism that the Left today does in case you did not noticed. It just expanded from &quot;social classes&quot; to other divisive class palette that they choose from.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;I’ve said that Marxism is a bastard child of the Enlightenment, whereas Fascism is explicitly counter-Enlightenment.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Ridiculous. Fascism is an evolution of Marxism. And it is intrinsically less intolerant than Marxism, which is a Social Supremacist ideology and thus Absolutist. How did Absolutism come from the Enlightenment?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;This argument makes sense if applied to an ideology like classical Marxism.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Since when Marxism is Coherent? It is Marxism that the Left today does in case you did not noticed. It just expanded from &#8220;social classes&#8221; to other divisive class palette that they choose from.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;I’ve said that Marxism is a bastard child of the Enlightenment, whereas Fascism is explicitly counter-Enlightenment.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Ridiculous. Fascism is an evolution of Marxism. And it is intrinsically less intolerant than Marxism, which is a Social Supremacist ideology and thus Absolutist. How did Absolutism come from the Enlightenment?</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2020 13:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;Intellectual conservatism, ironically, cautions against dense, clear, and compact answers&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Intellectual conservatism acknowledges for other possibilities &#8212; unknown or not considered.

Intellectual liberalism has considered and found the answer &#8212; no other possibilities are acceptable.

That&#039;s my dense, clear, and compact answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Intellectual conservatism, ironically, cautions against dense, clear, and compact answers&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Intellectual conservatism acknowledges for other possibilities &mdash; unknown or not considered.</p>
<p>Intellectual liberalism has considered and found the answer &mdash; no other possibilities are acceptable.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my dense, clear, and compact answer.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/10/it-does-not-present-a-grand-universal-rational-system/comment-page-1/#comment-3276585</link>
		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2020 16:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;First, if you are a high IQ individual you are more amenable and comfortable with abstraction, system-building, and rationality. Various forms of Leftism, liberalism, and libertarianism have something to offer you immediately since they start with rationalized systems.&quot;

This argument makes sense if applied to an ideology like classical Marxism; it doesn&#039;t make sense when applied to today&#039;s &#039;progressivism&#039;, which makes no attempt to be a coherent intellectual system.

I&#039;ve said that Marxism is a bastard child of the  Enlightenment, whereas Fascism is explicitly counter-Enlightenment.  Today&#039;s &#039;progressivism&#039; is more like Fascism than like Marxism from this standpoint.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;First, if you are a high IQ individual you are more amenable and comfortable with abstraction, system-building, and rationality. Various forms of Leftism, liberalism, and libertarianism have something to offer you immediately since they start with rationalized systems.&#8221;</p>
<p>This argument makes sense if applied to an ideology like classical Marxism; it doesn&#8217;t make sense when applied to today&#8217;s &#8216;progressivism&#8217;, which makes no attempt to be a coherent intellectual system.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said that Marxism is a bastard child of the  Enlightenment, whereas Fascism is explicitly counter-Enlightenment.  Today&#8217;s &#8216;progressivism&#8217; is more like Fascism than like Marxism from this standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2020 02:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;re giving them too much credit.

Progressives value beliefs that drive social status more than truth.

Conservatives value truth more than beliefs that drive social status.

Some exceptions made for the evangelical set.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re giving them too much credit.</p>
<p>Progressives value beliefs that drive social status more than truth.</p>
<p>Conservatives value truth more than beliefs that drive social status.</p>
<p>Some exceptions made for the evangelical set.</p>
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		<title>By: George Banner</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Banner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2020 02:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calling a leftist an “intellectual” is a bit of a stretch.

A leftist is a religious fanatic.

Her god is a trifecta of “common good”, “social justice” and “intersectionality”

Her ideas are nothing but fantasy and lack any scientific or philosophical weight and have proved disastrous in their many iterations in our history.

Her world view is cannibalistic and childish.

She longs for the feudal “right” to bring physical harm to others as the queen of an ant-hill with a nomenklatura one-hive-mind of other leftists like her that she approves.

We have to stop attributing to leftists any seriousness.

One of the main tenets of modern leftist “theory” is that “all whites are racist because of whiteness and non-whites can’t be racists because they are not whites” and all the rest of it is not much better.

A 10 yo can see their BS.

Why can’t we call them what they are: members of an anti-human murderous cult not all that different from the cult (myth or not) of Baal Moloch.

What is the difference between Ball Moloch and the “common good”, “social justice” and “intersectionality”?

None. One BS is as bad as another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling a leftist an “intellectual” is a bit of a stretch.</p>
<p>A leftist is a religious fanatic.</p>
<p>Her god is a trifecta of “common good”, “social justice” and “intersectionality”</p>
<p>Her ideas are nothing but fantasy and lack any scientific or philosophical weight and have proved disastrous in their many iterations in our history.</p>
<p>Her world view is cannibalistic and childish.</p>
<p>She longs for the feudal “right” to bring physical harm to others as the queen of an ant-hill with a nomenklatura one-hive-mind of other leftists like her that she approves.</p>
<p>We have to stop attributing to leftists any seriousness.</p>
<p>One of the main tenets of modern leftist “theory” is that “all whites are racist because of whiteness and non-whites can’t be racists because they are not whites” and all the rest of it is not much better.</p>
<p>A 10 yo can see their BS.</p>
<p>Why can’t we call them what they are: members of an anti-human murderous cult not all that different from the cult (myth or not) of Baal Moloch.</p>
<p>What is the difference between Ball Moloch and the “common good”, “social justice” and “intersectionality”?</p>
<p>None. One BS is as bad as another.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXXC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2020 00:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isegoria,

You are too kind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isegoria,</p>
<p>You are too kind.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2020 22:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some people value ideas over concrete reality, and some do not. Everything else is just labels and semantic sleight of hand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people value ideas over concrete reality, and some do not. Everything else is just labels and semantic sleight of hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucklucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucklucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2020 21:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Appearance of rationality playing with word meanings, newspeak is not rationality. 

Appearance of it make it appear genuine, reinforced by incessant repetition by the academia and media.

He instead could have said this:

1. Most conservative ideas and tenets are already established there is not need to reinvent the wheel.

2. Conservativism is not an extremely socially narcissistic, competitive culture like Progressivism, where you have to keep showing others that you are in the vanguard to be invited to the parties.

3. Conservatism is not intolerant, related to above. Since progressives are intolerant, that drives them to vouch for any new radical idea, afraid of being let behind.

4. You put a conservative on an island for 5 years, when he returns he is still a conservative. You put a progressive onto an island for 5 years, and he returns a Fascist; his once progressive vanguard ideas are already outdated.

Universities and journalists are in fact destroying civilization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appearance of rationality playing with word meanings, newspeak is not rationality. </p>
<p>Appearance of it make it appear genuine, reinforced by incessant repetition by the academia and media.</p>
<p>He instead could have said this:</p>
<p>1. Most conservative ideas and tenets are already established there is not need to reinvent the wheel.</p>
<p>2. Conservativism is not an extremely socially narcissistic, competitive culture like Progressivism, where you have to keep showing others that you are in the vanguard to be invited to the parties.</p>
<p>3. Conservatism is not intolerant, related to above. Since progressives are intolerant, that drives them to vouch for any new radical idea, afraid of being let behind.</p>
<p>4. You put a conservative on an island for 5 years, when he returns he is still a conservative. You put a progressive onto an island for 5 years, and he returns a Fascist; his once progressive vanguard ideas are already outdated.</p>
<p>Universities and journalists are in fact destroying civilization.</p>
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