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	<title>Comments on: The Americans were just beginning to fight</title>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/09/the-americans-were-just-beginning-to-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-3249916</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2020 02:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve probably seen the same ones.

Between Stockholm Syndrome, the control measures, and everything else, I really doubt that there were any Chinese soldiers that even thought about turning their weapons on the cadres.

After all, consider what the CCP managed to do in the POW camps on our people. The former Nationalist Chinese soldiers probably went through several years of similar conditions and doctrine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve probably seen the same ones.</p>
<p>Between Stockholm Syndrome, the control measures, and everything else, I really doubt that there were any Chinese soldiers that even thought about turning their weapons on the cadres.</p>
<p>After all, consider what the CCP managed to do in the POW camps on our people. The former Nationalist Chinese soldiers probably went through several years of similar conditions and doctrine.</p>
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		<title>By: Wang Wei Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wang Wei Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2020 00:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kirk,

Chinese motivation idiom: Kill the chicken to scare the monkey. I&#039;ve seen children&#039;s cartoons of this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk,</p>
<p>Chinese motivation idiom: Kill the chicken to scare the monkey. I&#8217;ve seen children&#8217;s cartoons of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/09/the-americans-were-just-beginning-to-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-3249457</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2020 15:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silly man... You don&#039;t think they handed out ammo with the weapons, do you? That was only given out just before combat, and there were also all those pesky NKVD-types just behind the lines to help stragglers find their way.

There&#039;s also that whole issue where the individual has no idea what is really going on in the minds of the men on his left and right. He may actually be a part of the majority that doesn&#039;t want to fight, but he&#039;ll never know because of the mistrust fostered by the system around him. Nobody dares talk about it, so everyone thinks everyone else is a true believer.

Also, there is the fact that it is possible that most of the men were ideologically committed, and that the ones executed were either innocent of what they were accused of, executed just because some apparatchik got a hard-on for them, or that they were genuinely guilty.

You try to tease out the things which were going on in the minds of men like that, and it&#039;s mostly a fools game. The Korean War was used by the Chinese to eliminate a lot of captured Nationalist Chinese soldiers that they&#039;d &quot;turned&quot;, and it is impossible to know at this point what the hell was going on in a lot of their minds. Some of the men the Chinese fed into the war had been convicted of war crimes while under Nationalist banners, and were told that the only way forward for them was to die in Korea--Which would have the effect of getting their families forgiveness.

It&#039;s not quite as simple as it all looks, from our vantage point. If you took your rifle, and shot the political officer? Odds were excellent that your sister back home and grandma were going to get shot, too. Communists are very good at motivating people, you see...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly man&#8230; You don&#8217;t think they handed out ammo with the weapons, do you? That was only given out just before combat, and there were also all those pesky NKVD-types just behind the lines to help stragglers find their way.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also that whole issue where the individual has no idea what is really going on in the minds of the men on his left and right. He may actually be a part of the majority that doesn&#8217;t want to fight, but he&#8217;ll never know because of the mistrust fostered by the system around him. Nobody dares talk about it, so everyone thinks everyone else is a true believer.</p>
<p>Also, there is the fact that it is possible that most of the men were ideologically committed, and that the ones executed were either innocent of what they were accused of, executed just because some apparatchik got a hard-on for them, or that they were genuinely guilty.</p>
<p>You try to tease out the things which were going on in the minds of men like that, and it&#8217;s mostly a fools game. The Korean War was used by the Chinese to eliminate a lot of captured Nationalist Chinese soldiers that they&#8217;d &#8220;turned&#8221;, and it is impossible to know at this point what the hell was going on in a lot of their minds. Some of the men the Chinese fed into the war had been convicted of war crimes while under Nationalist banners, and were told that the only way forward for them was to die in Korea&#8211;Which would have the effect of getting their families forgiveness.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not quite as simple as it all looks, from our vantage point. If you took your rifle, and shot the political officer? Odds were excellent that your sister back home and grandma were going to get shot, too. Communists are very good at motivating people, you see&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2020 12:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Now only frequent summary executions and the threat of death could hold the newly drafted trainees in line.&quot;

How does this even work? If they tried it on me, I&#039;d shoot them. Because, you know, I&#039;d just happen to have a gun on me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now only frequent summary executions and the threat of death could hold the newly drafted trainees in line.&#8221;</p>
<p>How does this even work? If they tried it on me, I&#8217;d shoot them. Because, you know, I&#8217;d just happen to have a gun on me.</p>
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