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	<title>Comments on: Paying protection money was part of the cost of doing business in Afghanistan</title>
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		<title>By: Lucklucky</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/09/paying-protection-money-was-part-of-the-cost-of-doing-business-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-3263146</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucklucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2020 00:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It’s their country&quot;

Is it a country? And is it theirs?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s their country&#8221;</p>
<p>Is it a country? And is it theirs?</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bana,

The Taliban made a huge deal out of &quot;eradicating&quot; poppy-farming back when they first took over Afghanistan. By the end of their time in power, they were quietly encouraging it, because there really isn&#039;t any other cash crop that could be easily packaged and sold for profit in that part of the world. The US tried getting the grape/raisin industry going, but with the Taliban going after everyone who accepted our help, that was a non-starter.

Frankly, the whole thing is a dog&#039;s breakfast. If you truly eradicated the poppy crop, then guess what? The locals starve to death in poverty. Which is the reality for why everyone looks the other way over it all--They don&#039;t want to allow the peace that would afford the opportunity for other crops, and the money is too good with the poppy crop. The warlords want something portable and compact to sell, soooo... Yeah.

It is analogous to the issues with the whiskey taxes during the early days of the American republic. You couldn&#039;t transport the wheat crop affordably to where you could sell it, so you distilled it down to whiskey which was portable enough, and which could be stored for a long, long time... Only thing was, the government man wanted his cut, so there ya go.

Backcountry agriculture is always problematic. Doesn&#039;t matter when, where, or what, it&#039;s a problem. Most of the high-value crops that are easily portable out of the logistic nightmare that was frontier America or modern Afghanistan are also things that are illicit and high-profit. Go figure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bana,</p>
<p>The Taliban made a huge deal out of &#8220;eradicating&#8221; poppy-farming back when they first took over Afghanistan. By the end of their time in power, they were quietly encouraging it, because there really isn&#8217;t any other cash crop that could be easily packaged and sold for profit in that part of the world. The US tried getting the grape/raisin industry going, but with the Taliban going after everyone who accepted our help, that was a non-starter.</p>
<p>Frankly, the whole thing is a dog&#8217;s breakfast. If you truly eradicated the poppy crop, then guess what? The locals starve to death in poverty. Which is the reality for why everyone looks the other way over it all&#8211;They don&#8217;t want to allow the peace that would afford the opportunity for other crops, and the money is too good with the poppy crop. The warlords want something portable and compact to sell, soooo&#8230; Yeah.</p>
<p>It is analogous to the issues with the whiskey taxes during the early days of the American republic. You couldn&#8217;t transport the wheat crop affordably to where you could sell it, so you distilled it down to whiskey which was portable enough, and which could be stored for a long, long time&#8230; Only thing was, the government man wanted his cut, so there ya go.</p>
<p>Backcountry agriculture is always problematic. Doesn&#8217;t matter when, where, or what, it&#8217;s a problem. Most of the high-value crops that are easily portable out of the logistic nightmare that was frontier America or modern Afghanistan are also things that are illicit and high-profit. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Bana</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/09/paying-protection-money-was-part-of-the-cost-of-doing-business-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-3262183</link>
		<dc:creator>Bana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My understanding was the Taliban had eradicated the poppy crop, but the US ramped it up once we were in-country, and continue to protect the poppy fields to this day.  You seem to be eliding these facts, documented in numerous articles since we invaded.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding was the Taliban had eradicated the poppy crop, but the US ramped it up once we were in-country, and continue to protect the poppy fields to this day.  You seem to be eliding these facts, documented in numerous articles since we invaded.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunoma 69</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunoma 69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2020 06:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Afghanistan, you pay the Taliban or they take someone and put them in a hidden prison.  In the US, you pay the USG or they take you and put you in a non-hidden prison.

First is very bad, second is very good.  Did I get it right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Afghanistan, you pay the Taliban or they take someone and put them in a hidden prison.  In the US, you pay the USG or they take you and put you in a non-hidden prison.</p>
<p>First is very bad, second is very good.  Did I get it right?</p>
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		<title>By: Wang Wei Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wang Wei Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2020 00:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s their country and the rules are centuries old. Follow the rules. Pay in money or pay in blood either way you pay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s their country and the rules are centuries old. Follow the rules. Pay in money or pay in blood either way you pay.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXXC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2020 23:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This only shows me academics don&#039;t understand right from wrong. 

That and all foreign aid must cease, and all charities be regulated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This only shows me academics don&#8217;t understand right from wrong. </p>
<p>That and all foreign aid must cease, and all charities be regulated.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sykes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Sykes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2020 16:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One has to wonder why they want us to leave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One has to wonder why they want us to leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilbur Hassenfus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilbur Hassenfus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2020 14:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There’s an assumption there that warlords are by nature rational economic actors who only, regretfully, engage in violence if somebody else is acting very badly. However, they prefer harmless non-violent tactics like kidnapping. That may be true in many cases. Then again I once spoke to a young central American lady whose father had been kidnapped for money, and her sense of the experience was weeks of profound, life-altering terror. But she was raised in a kidnapping culture, so she may not have fully appreciated the rational economic aspects.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s an assumption there that warlords are by nature rational economic actors who only, regretfully, engage in violence if somebody else is acting very badly. However, they prefer harmless non-violent tactics like kidnapping. That may be true in many cases. Then again I once spoke to a young central American lady whose father had been kidnapped for money, and her sense of the experience was weeks of profound, life-altering terror. But she was raised in a kidnapping culture, so she may not have fully appreciated the rational economic aspects.</p>
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