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	<title>Comments on: Trying to pretend that somehow the 20th century is still amongst us</title>
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		<title>By: CVLR</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/06/trying-to-pretend-that-somehow-the-20th-century-is-still-amongst-us/comment-page-1/#comment-3204283</link>
		<dc:creator>CVLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2020 02:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/06/trying-to-pretend-that-somehow-the-20th-century-is-still-amongst-us/comment-page-1/#comment-3202997</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2020 09:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And in the immortal words of that philosopher Mike Tyson,&quot;everyone has a plan until they get hit in the head&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in the immortal words of that philosopher Mike Tyson,&#8221;everyone has a plan until they get hit in the head&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: CVLR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CVLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2020 17:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Followed immediately by, “After that it would make no difference how many million men they have, and if you wanted Moscow I could give it to you.”

Recall Germany’s Lightningwar, which if not for a fatal series of unfortunate circumstances, probably including crypto-treason, would have scrubbed Bolshevism out of history by 1942.

The industrial war is not a war of individual heroism. It is not &lt;i&gt;merely&lt;/i&gt; a war of perfectly indoctrinated slave soldiers marching off to their collective doom. It is a war of &lt;i&gt;logistics&lt;/i&gt;.

The soldier is not a warrior. He is the absolute subject of another, for he has no autonomy. He has no autonomy because he cannot sustain himself in the field. He cannot sustain himself in the field for he is but a fleshy point on the tip of the spear of a vast, sprawling industrial machinery of incomprehensible complexity.

The well-executed industrial war is a symphony of the timely moving of men, colossal quantities of bullets, grenades, rockets, shells, and other armaments, and heavy machinery from one place to another. Indeed, directly out of the World War came most of the logistical and psychological technique used to this day.

People don’t know this because the Warner Brothers were too smart to make movies about the heroic wartime initiatives of green-visored accountants and pocket-protectored logistics nerds.

Had Hoover been re-elected there would have been no Lend-Lease. With no Lend-Lease Moscow would have been squashed like cockroach and British Bolshevism would have folded like wet paper bag.

Learn that the great George Patton felt himself the unwitting executioner of the last decent race in Europe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Followed immediately by, “After that it would make no difference how many million men they have, and if you wanted Moscow I could give it to you.”</p>
<p>Recall Germany’s Lightningwar, which if not for a fatal series of unfortunate circumstances, probably including crypto-treason, would have scrubbed Bolshevism out of history by 1942.</p>
<p>The industrial war is not a war of individual heroism. It is not <i>merely</i> a war of perfectly indoctrinated slave soldiers marching off to their collective doom. It is a war of <i>logistics</i>.</p>
<p>The soldier is not a warrior. He is the absolute subject of another, for he has no autonomy. He has no autonomy because he cannot sustain himself in the field. He cannot sustain himself in the field for he is but a fleshy point on the tip of the spear of a vast, sprawling industrial machinery of incomprehensible complexity.</p>
<p>The well-executed industrial war is a symphony of the timely moving of men, colossal quantities of bullets, grenades, rockets, shells, and other armaments, and heavy machinery from one place to another. Indeed, directly out of the World War came most of the logistical and psychological technique used to this day.</p>
<p>People don’t know this because the Warner Brothers were too smart to make movies about the heroic wartime initiatives of green-visored accountants and pocket-protectored logistics nerds.</p>
<p>Had Hoover been re-elected there would have been no Lend-Lease. With no Lend-Lease Moscow would have been squashed like cockroach and British Bolshevism would have folded like wet paper bag.</p>
<p>Learn that the great George Patton felt himself the unwitting executioner of the last decent race in Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2020 14:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...They could probably maintain themselves in the type of fighting I could give them for five days...&quot;

Sure Patton is right about the five days but it would take A LOT more than five days to take the USSR and a massive amount of Men and supplies far, far, far out weighing anything in Patton&#039;s command to summon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;They could probably maintain themselves in the type of fighting I could give them for five days&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure Patton is right about the five days but it would take A LOT more than five days to take the USSR and a massive amount of Men and supplies far, far, far out weighing anything in Patton&#8217;s command to summon.</p>
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		<title>By: CVLR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CVLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2020 04:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam: “He had to keep Stalin fighting and to do so he had to be told he would get something out of it. I expect there was nothing so vulgar as,”well we’ll get this and you get that”, they probably didn’t discuss it but their aides might have. It didn’t matter because Stalin occupied it and was not going to give it up without a fight and he had a mass of tanks, planes and other material to fight with. It would have taken a LOT of bloodletting to move him out.”

I consider the great General George Patton to be the authoritative source here.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
I understand the situation. Their (the Soviet) supply system is inadequate to maintain them in a serious action such as I could put to them. They have chickens in the coop and cattle on the hoof -- that&#039;s their supply system. They could probably maintain themselves in the type of fighting I could give them for five days. After that it would make no difference how many million men they have, and if you wanted Moscow I could give it to you. They lived on the land coming down. There is insufficient left for them to maintain themselves going back. Let&#039;s not give them time to build up their supplies. If we do, then . . . we have had a victory over the Germans and disarmed them, but we have failed in the liberation of Europe; we have lost the war!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But Antony Sutton is instructive also.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam: “He had to keep Stalin fighting and to do so he had to be told he would get something out of it. I expect there was nothing so vulgar as,”well we’ll get this and you get that”, they probably didn’t discuss it but their aides might have. It didn’t matter because Stalin occupied it and was not going to give it up without a fight and he had a mass of tanks, planes and other material to fight with. It would have taken a LOT of bloodletting to move him out.”</p>
<p>I consider the great General George Patton to be the authoritative source here.</p>
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I understand the situation. Their (the Soviet) supply system is inadequate to maintain them in a serious action such as I could put to them. They have chickens in the coop and cattle on the hoof &#8212; that&#8217;s their supply system. They could probably maintain themselves in the type of fighting I could give them for five days. After that it would make no difference how many million men they have, and if you wanted Moscow I could give it to you. They lived on the land coming down. There is insufficient left for them to maintain themselves going back. Let&#8217;s not give them time to build up their supplies. If we do, then . . . we have had a victory over the Germans and disarmed them, but we have failed in the liberation of Europe; we have lost the war!
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<p>But Antony Sutton is instructive also.</p>
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		<title>By: CVLR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CVLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 02:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If CIA broke the law, how would you know?

If you knew, how would you prosecute?

Presidents and Congressmen have tried.

Around 1962 JFK allegedly tried to splinter it.

In 1974 Nixon lost to it.

In 1975 Church tried to unmask it. He got trinkets and minor documents.

In 1989 it became president.

As everyone knows, Alex Jones is right about almost everything.

Pray to your redeemer. Kneel before your G-D.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If CIA broke the law, how would you know?</p>
<p>If you knew, how would you prosecute?</p>
<p>Presidents and Congressmen have tried.</p>
<p>Around 1962 JFK allegedly tried to splinter it.</p>
<p>In 1974 Nixon lost to it.</p>
<p>In 1975 Church tried to unmask it. He got trinkets and minor documents.</p>
<p>In 1989 it became president.</p>
<p>As everyone knows, Alex Jones is right about almost everything.</p>
<p>Pray to your redeemer. Kneel before your G-D.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2020 06:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There should be a law passed that the CIA should always put out the most accurate information to keep the American people informed. There should be a % reliability indicator on each information report from 0% to 100%. Imagine if their job was to deliver accurate information and with penalties at the least firing from the CIA at the minimum if they did not. It could make the CIA an asset by providing well thought out highly sourced information. The CIA does skirt the law but as a general rule they try to follow it. I know what we &quot;think publicly&quot; is the law they break but the actual law itself they can follow fairly close most of the time and still do whatever they want. We could close those loopholes. The law will of course be broken. Striving for perfection is a waste of time but a really consistent &quot;good enough&quot; is very effective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should be a law passed that the CIA should always put out the most accurate information to keep the American people informed. There should be a % reliability indicator on each information report from 0% to 100%. Imagine if their job was to deliver accurate information and with penalties at the least firing from the CIA at the minimum if they did not. It could make the CIA an asset by providing well thought out highly sourced information. The CIA does skirt the law but as a general rule they try to follow it. I know what we &#8220;think publicly&#8221; is the law they break but the actual law itself they can follow fairly close most of the time and still do whatever they want. We could close those loopholes. The law will of course be broken. Striving for perfection is a waste of time but a really consistent &#8220;good enough&#8221; is very effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2020 06:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Turbo:

“If someone actually have tried to salvage non-rotten parts of academia…”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-TT3tnFcRQ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turbo:</p>
<p>“If someone actually have tried to salvage non-rotten parts of academia…”</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-TT3tnFcRQ" >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-TT3tnFcRQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: CVLR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CVLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2020 15:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Identity politics” is used in the conventional sense. It should be called “social justice theology” or some other such thing, since &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; politics is &lt;i&gt;identity politics&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Identity politics” is used in the conventional sense. It should be called “social justice theology” or some other such thing, since <i>all</i> politics is <i>identity politics</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: CVLR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CVLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2020 15:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Turbo:

“If someone actually have tried to salvage non-rotten parts of academia...”

Nothing will ever change because people like you think that the state is the thing that you can see.

No, friend — the thing that you can see is what is called the &lt;i&gt;government.&lt;/i&gt;

“That’s smoke and mirrors...dog rape...&amp;c.”

Identity politics &amp;c. was the principal response to Occupy Wall Street, a grassroots protest by ordinary people against the magic money power of the hegemon banker-lords who create all value. It was released and promoted by the Central Intelligence Complex to distract and confuse. That is its purpose, that is why it was invented, and it is exceptionally well designed.

I tip my hat to the fellas on the PSYOP team responsible for its genesis and dissemination, but especially its genesis. Fine work, lads. Very fine work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turbo:</p>
<p>“If someone actually have tried to salvage non-rotten parts of academia&#8230;”</p>
<p>Nothing will ever change because people like you think that the state is the thing that you can see.</p>
<p>No, friend — the thing that you can see is what is called the <i>government.</i></p>
<p>“That’s smoke and mirrors&#8230;dog rape&#8230;&amp;c.”</p>
<p>Identity politics &amp;c. was the principal response to Occupy Wall Street, a grassroots protest by ordinary people against the magic money power of the hegemon banker-lords who create all value. It was released and promoted by the Central Intelligence Complex to distract and confuse. That is its purpose, that is why it was invented, and it is exceptionally well designed.</p>
<p>I tip my hat to the fellas on the PSYOP team responsible for its genesis and dissemination, but especially its genesis. Fine work, lads. Very fine work.</p>
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