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	<title>Comments on: No man-made vehicle has ever presented such an awe-inspiring spectacle</title>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/06/no-man-made-vehicle-has-ever-presented-such-an-awe-inspiring-spectacle/comment-page-1/#comment-3206729</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2020 14:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Groot, everything that works is a machine. The question is: works for whom? Serves whose purpose?

(But not every machine works.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Groot, everything that works is a machine. The question is: works for whom? Serves whose purpose?</p>
<p>(But not every machine works.)</p>
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		<title>By: Wang Wei Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wang Wei Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2020 03:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;No man-made vehicle has ever presented such an awe-inspiring spectacle as a giant airship...&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

True as far as it goes, but the Saturn V and Falcon Heavy are damn impressive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;No man-made vehicle has ever presented such an awe-inspiring spectacle as a giant airship&#8230;&#8221;</em></p>
<p>True as far as it goes, but the Saturn V and Falcon Heavy are damn impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: Groot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Groot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2020 20:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Technology is knowledge made flesh.

Knowledge, as they say, is power. Is power shared or hoarded?

Culture is downstream of economics, economics is downstream of property, property is downstream of technology, and technology is downstream of knowledge.

The state is a machine; there is a machine of state. It is intrinsically and inherently technocratic, and those who sponsor the technologists who create and maintain its operating levers are its masters.

But does it stop here? People quarrel. Groups quarrel. &lt;i&gt;Gangs&lt;/i&gt; quarrel. When gangs quarrel, where does the authority of the state end and the gang begin?

And just why &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; things get so weird after 1974, 2001, and 2013?

What is the meaning of the Great Intermission?

Do you still think that you are going to die of the flu?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technology is knowledge made flesh.</p>
<p>Knowledge, as they say, is power. Is power shared or hoarded?</p>
<p>Culture is downstream of economics, economics is downstream of property, property is downstream of technology, and technology is downstream of knowledge.</p>
<p>The state is a machine; there is a machine of state. It is intrinsically and inherently technocratic, and those who sponsor the technologists who create and maintain its operating levers are its masters.</p>
<p>But does it stop here? People quarrel. Groups quarrel. <i>Gangs</i> quarrel. When gangs quarrel, where does the authority of the state end and the gang begin?</p>
<p>And just why <i>did</i> things get so weird after 1974, 2001, and 2013?</p>
<p>What is the meaning of the Great Intermission?</p>
<p>Do you still think that you are going to die of the flu?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2020 16:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I am approaching 80 rapidly my memories of the &#039;50s when I was a youth fade but I sure remember the science magazines aimed at my demographic: &lt;em&gt;Popular Mechanics&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Popular Science&lt;/em&gt;, and &lt;em&gt;Mechanix Illustrated&lt;/em&gt;.

My recollection is that their value and authority as perceived by me was in this order with the highest to lowest being: &lt;em&gt;Popular Mechanics&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Popular Science&lt;/em&gt;, and then &lt;em&gt;Mechanix Illustrated&lt;/em&gt;. I had a subscription to &lt;em&gt;Popular Mechanics&lt;/em&gt; but could read the other two at my local branch Carnegie Library.

Those were the days. So much optimism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I am approaching 80 rapidly my memories of the &#8217;50s when I was a youth fade but I sure remember the science magazines aimed at my demographic: <em>Popular Mechanics</em>, <em>Popular Science</em>, and <em>Mechanix Illustrated</em>.</p>
<p>My recollection is that their value and authority as perceived by me was in this order with the highest to lowest being: <em>Popular Mechanics</em>, <em>Popular Science</em>, and then <em>Mechanix Illustrated</em>. I had a subscription to <em>Popular Mechanics</em> but could read the other two at my local branch Carnegie Library.</p>
<p>Those were the days. So much optimism.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2020 15:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CVLR, technology doesn&#039;t develop itself. You have to make R&amp;D a priority or it won&#039;t happen.

The space race happened. It happened for a reason. Since then, there&#039;a been no real government-driven technological progress, because there&#039;s been no incentive.

Someone once said &quot;government is just a word for the things we do together.&quot; What if we don&#039;t want to do anything together? Vision must come from outside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CVLR, technology doesn&#8217;t develop itself. You have to make R&amp;D a priority or it won&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>The space race happened. It happened for a reason. Since then, there&#8217;a been no real government-driven technological progress, because there&#8217;s been no incentive.</p>
<p>Someone once said &#8220;government is just a word for the things we do together.&#8221; What if we don&#8217;t want to do anything together? Vision must come from outside.</p>
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		<title>By: Albion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;it can display its wares anywhere on the face of the earth&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s it, in a nutshell. This monster dirigible can be seen by all, as a continual demonstration of the might of the manufacturing nation (with the added bonus it can carry military muscle, too, in case you needed a reminder).

Look up and wonder, ye peasants, or as Shelley said how it would end:

&#039;And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;it can display its wares anywhere on the face of the earth&#8221;</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s it, in a nutshell. This monster dirigible can be seen by all, as a continual demonstration of the might of the manufacturing nation (with the added bonus it can carry military muscle, too, in case you needed a reminder).</p>
<p>Look up and wonder, ye peasants, or as Shelley said how it would end:</p>
<p>&#8216;And on the pedestal, these words appear:<br />
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;<br />
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: CVLR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CVLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 23:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which is more likely:

1. Shortly following WWII, the military-industrial complex magically lost its ability to develop new and exotic technologies.

2. Shortly following WWII, the military-industrial complex no longer had any strong incentive to publish its new and exotic technologies.

And as for me, I just want to know what’s under the ice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is more likely:</p>
<p>1. Shortly following WWII, the military-industrial complex magically lost its ability to develop new and exotic technologies.</p>
<p>2. Shortly following WWII, the military-industrial complex no longer had any strong incentive to publish its new and exotic technologies.</p>
<p>And as for me, I just want to know what’s under the ice.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 17:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s so much of this technologic dreamwork in the post-WWII era that it&#039;s not even funny. It was around before then, but nowhere near as delusional or deeply crazy. Something about winning (or, in the case of Germany, losing...) WWII led to an incredible amount of hubris in all realms. Everyone thought that the five-year period where we went from piston-powered aircraft and relatively primitive weapons to the atomic bomb and guided missiles somehow meant that &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt; was now attainable.

Of course, atomic fusion, superconductors, and flying cars still remain &quot;...twenty years away...&quot; for those of us still here in reality, version 2020.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s so much of this technologic dreamwork in the post-WWII era that it&#8217;s not even funny. It was around before then, but nowhere near as delusional or deeply crazy. Something about winning (or, in the case of Germany, losing&#8230;) WWII led to an incredible amount of hubris in all realms. Everyone thought that the five-year period where we went from piston-powered aircraft and relatively primitive weapons to the atomic bomb and guided missiles somehow meant that <i>everything</i> was now attainable.</p>
<p>Of course, atomic fusion, superconductors, and flying cars still remain &#8220;&#8230;twenty years away&#8230;&#8221; for those of us still here in reality, version 2020.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 16:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They always overlook some crucial detail.

Never fall too much in love with your own ideas. Love is blind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They always overlook some crucial detail.</p>
<p>Never fall too much in love with your own ideas. Love is blind.</p>
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