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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/05/similar-to-the-dark-months-after-pearl-harbor/comment-page-1/#comment-3166698</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2020 01:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am gregarious and like time alone. Not at the same time, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am gregarious and like time alone. Not at the same time, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/05/similar-to-the-dark-months-after-pearl-harbor/comment-page-1/#comment-3166467</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 23:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe I&#039;m having trouble reading today, but points 1 and 2 seem to be exactly 180 degrees out of phase. Like a horoscope saying, &quot;you are gregarious and like time alone.&quot;

The rest seems a muddled puddle of blather jumping from vague observations to some opinion only loosely connected to the observation.

And, the observations? Here&#039;s an example:

&quot;when consumption options are significantly restricted, people may spend a smaller share of income than in other times&quot;

Yep, can&#039;t argue with that. When people can&#039;t spend money, they don&#039;t. How odd.

...

And, then I read the source: Vox. ... Ah. Another pearl from the 24-year-old-intern press.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m having trouble reading today, but points 1 and 2 seem to be exactly 180 degrees out of phase. Like a horoscope saying, &#8220;you are gregarious and like time alone.&#8221;</p>
<p>The rest seems a muddled puddle of blather jumping from vague observations to some opinion only loosely connected to the observation.</p>
<p>And, the observations? Here&#8217;s an example:</p>
<p>&#8220;when consumption options are significantly restricted, people may spend a smaller share of income than in other times&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep, can&#8217;t argue with that. When people can&#8217;t spend money, they don&#8217;t. How odd.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>And, then I read the source: Vox. &#8230; Ah. Another pearl from the 24-year-old-intern press.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/05/similar-to-the-dark-months-after-pearl-harbor/comment-page-1/#comment-3166396</link>
		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 22:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He does make a good point here:  &quot;when people picture the WWII economy, they&#039;re thinking about 1944/1945&quot;...indeed, there is little collective memory of just how difficult and chaotic things were at first.

He talks about &quot;materials availability&quot; is a key issue....it&#039;s not just raw materials that&#039;s an issue today, it&#039;s the whole supply chain for manufactured products.  The US economy is far less self-contained today than it was during WWII. 

There is an interesting historical parallel in the US dependency on German for certain key chemical products prior to WWI.  I discussed it briefly here:

chicagoboyz.net/archives/62406.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He does make a good point here:  &#8220;when people picture the WWII economy, they&#8217;re thinking about 1944/1945&#8243;&#8230;indeed, there is little collective memory of just how difficult and chaotic things were at first.</p>
<p>He talks about &#8220;materials availability&#8221; is a key issue&#8230;.it&#8217;s not just raw materials that&#8217;s an issue today, it&#8217;s the whole supply chain for manufactured products.  The US economy is far less self-contained today than it was during WWII. </p>
<p>There is an interesting historical parallel in the US dependency on German for certain key chemical products prior to WWI.  I discussed it briefly here:</p>
<p>chicagoboyz.net/archives/62406.html</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/05/similar-to-the-dark-months-after-pearl-harbor/comment-page-1/#comment-3166329</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 22:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The other point this guy hand-waves is the amount of sheer corruption and mendacity present in the war production/procurement process. Harry Truman was made the vice-presidential candidate for FDR in no small part because they wanted to shut him up in the Senate, where he was chairing an anti-corruption committee.

I&#039;ve never seen any of these &quot;authorities&quot; who want more control actually demonstrate any real ability to run things effectively over the long haul. Every NASA that puts men on the moon eventually turns into the NASA which builds the Space Shuttle, and then &quot;manages&quot; it into two major crashes.

We can do better, and direly need to figure out how.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other point this guy hand-waves is the amount of sheer corruption and mendacity present in the war production/procurement process. Harry Truman was made the vice-presidential candidate for FDR in no small part because they wanted to shut him up in the Senate, where he was chairing an anti-corruption committee.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen any of these &#8220;authorities&#8221; who want more control actually demonstrate any real ability to run things effectively over the long haul. Every NASA that puts men on the moon eventually turns into the NASA which builds the Space Shuttle, and then &#8220;manages&#8221; it into two major crashes.</p>
<p>We can do better, and direly need to figure out how.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 21:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Centralize the purchasing....&quot;

Big problem with the WWII analogy, in the form of federalism.  The Army, Navy, etc are all part of the Federal executive branch.  Not true of states and localities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Centralize the purchasing&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Big problem with the WWII analogy, in the form of federalism.  The Army, Navy, etc are all part of the Federal executive branch.  Not true of states and localities.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 18:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ever notice the common denominator with all these &quot;solutions&quot;? The way the author wants to solve everything by &quot;taking control&quot; or &quot;giving control&quot;, which always means that there&#039;s going to be another incompetent layer of bureaucracy interposed between everything?

Over-population? Give control to the government/technocrats. Oil crisis? Give control to the government/technocrats. Resource limits? Give control to the government/technocrats...

It&#039;s a never-ending litany of the same solution to different problems, and the track record boils down to failure every time we&#039;ve done it. Then, the actual solutions always come from outside the system.

How long do we keep listening to these idiots?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever notice the common denominator with all these &#8220;solutions&#8221;? The way the author wants to solve everything by &#8220;taking control&#8221; or &#8220;giving control&#8221;, which always means that there&#8217;s going to be another incompetent layer of bureaucracy interposed between everything?</p>
<p>Over-population? Give control to the government/technocrats. Oil crisis? Give control to the government/technocrats. Resource limits? Give control to the government/technocrats&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a never-ending litany of the same solution to different problems, and the track record boils down to failure every time we&#8217;ve done it. Then, the actual solutions always come from outside the system.</p>
<p>How long do we keep listening to these idiots?</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 15:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, this is all awfully Keynesian.

I&#039;ll grant this much: if it takes government to bring critical manufacturing back onshore, so be it. In the meantime, points two through four are moot. In the short run, we&#039;re all dead in the water.

Everything people are supposed to care about is the moral equivalent of war, because hijacking the neural circuitry of mass violence is the surest way to mobilize the populace.

To date they&#039;ve been hijacking the neural circuitry of fear to neutralize the populace. Fear has a half life. The populace is getting fed up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is all awfully Keynesian.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll grant this much: if it takes government to bring critical manufacturing back onshore, so be it. In the meantime, points two through four are moot. In the short run, we&#8217;re all dead in the water.</p>
<p>Everything people are supposed to care about is the moral equivalent of war, because hijacking the neural circuitry of mass violence is the surest way to mobilize the populace.</p>
<p>To date they&#8217;ve been hijacking the neural circuitry of fear to neutralize the populace. Fear has a half life. The populace is getting fed up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 13:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Typo in second paragraph:

&quot;American industry produced more than 96,000 planes in &lt;strong&gt;1940&lt;/strong&gt; alone — a 26-fold increase over the 3,611 airplanes produced in &lt;strong&gt;1940&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo in second paragraph:</p>
<p>&#8220;American industry produced more than 96,000 planes in <strong>1940</strong> alone — a 26-fold increase over the 3,611 airplanes produced in <strong>1940</strong>&#8220;</p>
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