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		<title>By: Huey “Every Man a King” Long</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/04/good-isnt-stupid-or-weak-or-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-3143073</link>
		<dc:creator>Huey “Every Man a King” Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2020 09:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God save the &lt;strike&gt;Queen&lt;/strike&gt; comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God save the <strike>Queen</strike> comment.</p>
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		<title>By: N.N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>N.N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 00:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damn! Kirk, your analysis is usually more penetrating. The pagan priests saw the expansion of the States linked to their idols as proof of their faith&#039;s superiority. All those wars of the Near East, not to mention the human sacrifices, were done in honour of their gods. Bit like the millions of babies sacrificed to the idol of &#039;bodily autonomy&#039; today. 

The difference is that because their belief systems were polytheist, there was always space for defeated gods in the pantheon. As Christians found out though, attempts to change the social structure underpinned by those beliefs invited bloody reprisals. Your &#039;insecurity&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn! Kirk, your analysis is usually more penetrating. The pagan priests saw the expansion of the States linked to their idols as proof of their faith&#8217;s superiority. All those wars of the Near East, not to mention the human sacrifices, were done in honour of their gods. Bit like the millions of babies sacrificed to the idol of &#8216;bodily autonomy&#8217; today. </p>
<p>The difference is that because their belief systems were polytheist, there was always space for defeated gods in the pantheon. As Christians found out though, attempts to change the social structure underpinned by those beliefs invited bloody reprisals. Your &#8216;insecurity&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2020 19:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kirk, I think you&#039;ve got it backwards. Modern left wing thinking is a corruption of Christendom. Liberty, equality and fraternity are all Biblical ideals. They&#039;re also things that are difficult or impossible for humans without Divine assistance. This is the point that the French Revolution missed. Subtract God and what you have left becomes degenerate and corrupt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk, I think you&#8217;ve got it backwards. Modern left wing thinking is a corruption of Christendom. Liberty, equality and fraternity are all Biblical ideals. They&#8217;re also things that are difficult or impossible for humans without Divine assistance. This is the point that the French Revolution missed. Subtract God and what you have left becomes degenerate and corrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/04/good-isnt-stupid-or-weak-or-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-3141196</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hell, the more I think about it... I don&#039;t think there&#039;s anywhere in media where stories are told from a truly &quot;right-wing&quot; perspective. Even a lot of the Bible-based &quot;Christian&quot; BS is couched in terms and told in ways that are intrinsically of the left, when you look at them from a certain angle.

Of course, that&#039;s because Biblical/Christian thought processes are how we got to &quot;the Left&quot; as we know it. You want really right-wing stuff, you have to abandon Christianity, which got its start as a subversive slave religion and then turned out to be even more of an asshole thing than the old-school pagan religions. The priests of Ishtar and Jupiter didn&#039;t feel the lack of confidence necessary to lead to them killing off their competition, but maybe they should have.

Weird thing when you stop and think about it, but even the base assumptions and mindsets for a lot of modern media are essentially and intrinsically left-wing in outlook and worldview.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, the more I think about it&#8230; I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anywhere in media where stories are told from a truly &#8220;right-wing&#8221; perspective. Even a lot of the Bible-based &#8220;Christian&#8221; BS is couched in terms and told in ways that are intrinsically of the left, when you look at them from a certain angle.</p>
<p>Of course, that&#8217;s because Biblical/Christian thought processes are how we got to &#8220;the Left&#8221; as we know it. You want really right-wing stuff, you have to abandon Christianity, which got its start as a subversive slave religion and then turned out to be even more of an asshole thing than the old-school pagan religions. The priests of Ishtar and Jupiter didn&#8217;t feel the lack of confidence necessary to lead to them killing off their competition, but maybe they should have.</p>
<p>Weird thing when you stop and think about it, but even the base assumptions and mindsets for a lot of modern media are essentially and intrinsically left-wing in outlook and worldview.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2020 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How much pulp fiction have you actually &lt;i&gt;read&lt;/i&gt;? I honestly can&#039;t think of a bit of it that&#039;s actually &quot;right-wing&quot; to any real extent--The viewpoint characters are always good lefty stereotypes, and the baddies are always Establishment villains, or in cahoots with those in power.

Hell, when you get down to it, very little of our popular culture is actually framed or related from a conservative viewpoint. If it were? It would all be a lot different. Bambi would be told from the viewpoint of the hunter filling his pot, feeding his family. Instead, they take the side of the forest rat, a deer, and play up all the underdog animals of the forest as the Good Guys (tm). Look at Peter Rabbit, ferchrissakes... The only version of that with a conservative slant is the Perry Bible Fellowship one:

https://www.gocomics.com/perry-bible-fellowship/2020/03/16

No, nine-tenths of media and entertainment is told from the left&#039;s viewpoint. There is little to nothing of a right-wing cast to much of anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much pulp fiction have you actually <i>read</i>? I honestly can&#8217;t think of a bit of it that&#8217;s actually &#8220;right-wing&#8221; to any real extent&#8211;The viewpoint characters are always good lefty stereotypes, and the baddies are always Establishment villains, or in cahoots with those in power.</p>
<p>Hell, when you get down to it, very little of our popular culture is actually framed or related from a conservative viewpoint. If it were? It would all be a lot different. Bambi would be told from the viewpoint of the hunter filling his pot, feeding his family. Instead, they take the side of the forest rat, a deer, and play up all the underdog animals of the forest as the Good Guys &#8482;. Look at Peter Rabbit, ferchrissakes&#8230; The only version of that with a conservative slant is the Perry Bible Fellowship one:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.gocomics.com/perry-bible-fellowship/2020/03/16" >https://www.gocomics.com/perry-bible-fellowship/2020/03/16</a></p>
<p>No, nine-tenths of media and entertainment is told from the left&#8217;s viewpoint. There is little to nothing of a right-wing cast to much of anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Voatboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voatboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;“The whole comic-book superhero milieu has always struck me as more than a little “off”. Would real people actually do the things those archetypes (supposed ones, I mean) do, in the situations they’re in?”&lt;/em&gt;

I agree. American comic books are very leftwing. Possibly they are a reaction against right-wing pulp stories. Possibly Hollywood pulled them further left.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“The whole comic-book superhero milieu has always struck me as more than a little “off”. Would real people actually do the things those archetypes (supposed ones, I mean) do, in the situations they’re in?”</em></p>
<p>I agree. American comic books are very leftwing. Possibly they are a reaction against right-wing pulp stories. Possibly Hollywood pulled them further left.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2020 21:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every villain is the hero of his own story.

Good isn&#039;t stupid, because stupid isn&#039;t good. Stupid isn&#039;t evil, but it is bad, and that ain&#039;t good.

Every jackass is a genius in his own eyes.

As for comic books, they&#039;re all about the continuity. Batman can&#039;t kill off the Joker because the franchise needs the Joker. Art does not imitate life. Art imitates itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every villain is the hero of his own story.</p>
<p>Good isn&#8217;t stupid, because stupid isn&#8217;t good. Stupid isn&#8217;t evil, but it is bad, and that ain&#8217;t good.</p>
<p>Every jackass is a genius in his own eyes.</p>
<p>As for comic books, they&#8217;re all about the continuity. Batman can&#8217;t kill off the Joker because the franchise needs the Joker. Art does not imitate life. Art imitates itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The whole comic-book superhero milieu has always struck me as more than a little &quot;off&quot;. Would real people actually do the things those archetypes (supposed ones, I mean) do, in the situations they&#039;re in?

And, on top of it all, there&#039;s a not-so-subtle leftward tilt of wish-fulfillment to the whole thing. The entire industry has this ideological twist to it, one that is entirely leftwards in orientation. The underlying assumptions are pure leftwing escapism--The Nietzschean concepts are clearly there, of superior men setting themselves aside from the rules and conventions of society to fix everything for everyone, whether they like it or not.

Reality is, if you had people like this running around? You&#039;d put up with it for one iteration of city-wrecking, and then it would be open season on Superman. Either that, or the Tony Starks behind it all would be sued into penury. Just one of their little in-city battles would result in literal man-millennia of lawyer&#039;s hours, and just the fees alone would bankrupt the lot of them--Justifiably so. Imagine it: &quot;Bruce Banner, in the guise of &#039;The Incredible Hulk&#039;, threw a streetcar through my living room, killing my aged mother as she watched TV...&quot;.

The whole genre is full of this objectively left-wing underpinnings. There aren&#039;t &quot;normal citizens&quot; doing their own thing, minding their own business, running their lives as participants in a democratic society. It&#039;s all downtrodden everman victims, some of whom get special &quot;powers&quot;, with which they instantly go off the rails and either become supervillians or their equally destructive superhero counterparts. The &quot;authorities&quot; are always shown as ineffective and useless, with the superheros coming to their rescue.

What more perfect metaphor for how the leftwing meddling mindset views the world? Don&#039;t all of them seem to see themselves as superior beings, &quot;helping&quot; the rest of us? Look at San Francisco or Seattle for examples of how that crap really works out.

No, I&#039;m not a fan of the comic book, its simplistic views of the world, or the people who model themselves on those characters. I see Superman on paper or the screen, and what I see hidden in the shadows behind him are the same set of destructive left-wing ideologues that have wrecked much of the civilization in the name of saving us all. The mindset stems from the same roots that the wish-fulfillment in the comic books do, and when it is expressed out in the real world, then you get the Ayres mentalities that we have running things. I dare say that the Strzoks of the &quot;Deep State&quot; all see themselves as comic book heroes, entitled and empowered to do all the things they did to save the rest of us from the evil supervillian Trump... And, you can see where that crap is leading us: Likely breakdown of the social commons and coming revolution as these types go further and further into their derangement. Imagine some character like Strzok in charge of the missiles out in North Dakota, deciding he knew better than the people of these United States and their duly elected representatives...

All of that stems from the same things that go into the world of superheroes and comic books. The mentality is inherently narcissistic and deranged, entitled and unaccountable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole comic-book superhero milieu has always struck me as more than a little &#8220;off&#8221;. Would real people actually do the things those archetypes (supposed ones, I mean) do, in the situations they&#8217;re in?</p>
<p>And, on top of it all, there&#8217;s a not-so-subtle leftward tilt of wish-fulfillment to the whole thing. The entire industry has this ideological twist to it, one that is entirely leftwards in orientation. The underlying assumptions are pure leftwing escapism&#8211;The Nietzschean concepts are clearly there, of superior men setting themselves aside from the rules and conventions of society to fix everything for everyone, whether they like it or not.</p>
<p>Reality is, if you had people like this running around? You&#8217;d put up with it for one iteration of city-wrecking, and then it would be open season on Superman. Either that, or the Tony Starks behind it all would be sued into penury. Just one of their little in-city battles would result in literal man-millennia of lawyer&#8217;s hours, and just the fees alone would bankrupt the lot of them&#8211;Justifiably so. Imagine it: &#8220;Bruce Banner, in the guise of &#8216;The Incredible Hulk&#8217;, threw a streetcar through my living room, killing my aged mother as she watched TV&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>The whole genre is full of this objectively left-wing underpinnings. There aren&#8217;t &#8220;normal citizens&#8221; doing their own thing, minding their own business, running their lives as participants in a democratic society. It&#8217;s all downtrodden everman victims, some of whom get special &#8220;powers&#8221;, with which they instantly go off the rails and either become supervillians or their equally destructive superhero counterparts. The &#8220;authorities&#8221; are always shown as ineffective and useless, with the superheros coming to their rescue.</p>
<p>What more perfect metaphor for how the leftwing meddling mindset views the world? Don&#8217;t all of them seem to see themselves as superior beings, &#8220;helping&#8221; the rest of us? Look at San Francisco or Seattle for examples of how that crap really works out.</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m not a fan of the comic book, its simplistic views of the world, or the people who model themselves on those characters. I see Superman on paper or the screen, and what I see hidden in the shadows behind him are the same set of destructive left-wing ideologues that have wrecked much of the civilization in the name of saving us all. The mindset stems from the same roots that the wish-fulfillment in the comic books do, and when it is expressed out in the real world, then you get the Ayres mentalities that we have running things. I dare say that the Strzoks of the &#8220;Deep State&#8221; all see themselves as comic book heroes, entitled and empowered to do all the things they did to save the rest of us from the evil supervillian Trump&#8230; And, you can see where that crap is leading us: Likely breakdown of the social commons and coming revolution as these types go further and further into their derangement. Imagine some character like Strzok in charge of the missiles out in North Dakota, deciding he knew better than the people of these United States and their duly elected representatives&#8230;</p>
<p>All of that stems from the same things that go into the world of superheroes and comic books. The mentality is inherently narcissistic and deranged, entitled and unaccountable.</p>
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		<title>By: Albion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2020 11:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Kirk on the Batman farce. Every time the overdressed fool puts a bad guy away the criminal soon escapes and carries on as before. Why, it&#039;s almost as if Batman was in on the deal so he could look like a hero by continually catching the bad guy, knowing they would get out and carry on as if nothing has happened.

But maybe the underlying message is prisons in Gotham (meaning all of ours, I presume) are useless and cannot hold determined criminals, but then they don&#039;t really try, do they? Just as the Gotham (meaning our) police can&#039;t do anything about the bad people, neither can the courts or the prisons.

They are &#039;good&#039; and ineffective, consuming money and energy but achieving no results.

If I lived in Gotham I would begin to wonder just whose side &#039;heroes&#039; like Batman are on. But then, that&#039;s fantasy because we don&#039;t have masked heroes: all we have is the police, courts and prisons. 

How&#039;s that working out for justice?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Kirk on the Batman farce. Every time the overdressed fool puts a bad guy away the criminal soon escapes and carries on as before. Why, it&#8217;s almost as if Batman was in on the deal so he could look like a hero by continually catching the bad guy, knowing they would get out and carry on as if nothing has happened.</p>
<p>But maybe the underlying message is prisons in Gotham (meaning all of ours, I presume) are useless and cannot hold determined criminals, but then they don&#8217;t really try, do they? Just as the Gotham (meaning our) police can&#8217;t do anything about the bad people, neither can the courts or the prisons.</p>
<p>They are &#8216;good&#8217; and ineffective, consuming money and energy but achieving no results.</p>
<p>If I lived in Gotham I would begin to wonder just whose side &#8216;heroes&#8217; like Batman are on. But then, that&#8217;s fantasy because we don&#8217;t have masked heroes: all we have is the police, courts and prisons. </p>
<p>How&#8217;s that working out for justice?</p>
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		<title>By: N.N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>N.N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2020 04:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, Faze, an adversary who prowls *like* a lion is not &#039;effectively named as the lion&#039;. Metaphors are not similes.

As for Christ&#039;s link to the lion, turn to Saint John the Evangelist&#039;s vision:

&#039;Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals&quot;...&#039;

Revelations 5:5.

Christ the Lamb takes away the sins of the world, but Christ also conquers death as the Lion of Judah. A stronger student of the bible than I--C.S Lewis, no doubt-- would be able to link that to Isaiah and his vision of the changing aspects of angels. 

Long and short of it is that the New Testament portrayals of Christ are well in line with the broader claims of the article shared by our host. Consider the ends of the parables of the banquet, talents and vineyard, for example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Faze, an adversary who prowls *like* a lion is not &#8216;effectively named as the lion&#8217;. Metaphors are not similes.</p>
<p>As for Christ&#8217;s link to the lion, turn to Saint John the Evangelist&#8217;s vision:</p>
<p>&#8216;Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals&#8221;&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>Revelations 5:5.</p>
<p>Christ the Lamb takes away the sins of the world, but Christ also conquers death as the Lion of Judah. A stronger student of the bible than I&#8211;C.S Lewis, no doubt&#8211; would be able to link that to Isaiah and his vision of the changing aspects of angels. </p>
<p>Long and short of it is that the New Testament portrayals of Christ are well in line with the broader claims of the article shared by our host. Consider the ends of the parables of the banquet, talents and vineyard, for example.</p>
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