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		<title>By: X-Ray</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/04/apply-several-millennia-of-compound-interest-to-see-what-happens-next/comment-page-1/#comment-3152973</link>
		<dc:creator>X-Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2020 00:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hope all is well with you, Izzi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope all is well with you, Izzi.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 21:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Obedient wives and children” does not mean that women and children have some inherent quality that makes them obey you. It means that you have the right to punish them when they don&#039;t.

Where no one has the power to punish, no one has the power to manage, and there is no family, just some people temporarily living together.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Obedient wives and children” does not mean that women and children have some inherent quality that makes them obey you. It means that you have the right to punish them when they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Where no one has the power to punish, no one has the power to manage, and there is no family, just some people temporarily living together.</p>
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		<title>By: RLVC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2020 01:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scratch that last one. Latent...potential is probably too much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scratch that last one. Latent&#8230;potential is probably too much.</p>
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		<title>By: RLVC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2020 01:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;ordinary humans’ martial potential&quot; =&gt; &quot;ordinary humans&#039; latent martial potential&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ordinary humans’ martial potential&#8221; =&gt; &#8220;ordinary humans&#8217; latent martial potential&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RLVC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2020 01:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;is eclipsed is eclipsed&quot; =&gt; &quot;is eclipsed&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;is eclipsed is eclipsed&#8221; =&gt; &#8220;is eclipsed&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RLVC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2020 01:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
Who has a 40 year investment horizon and how would they not get their lunch eaten in the short term? Our rulers would rather our women work and agitate than rear.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The indigenous populations of most countries are undergoing managed decline. Software and offshoring have together eliminated the demand for most productive work. And in spite of all of the sub-replacement fertility of the middle- and upper-middle classes, the socioeconomic structure still does not have enough vacancies to support the need of the populations&#039; youths.

A universal dividend commensurate to the immense per-capita productivity of the modern infoindustrial apparatus is not an option because it would immediately alleviate the financial pressure that is keeping everyone from rebelling.

This is a critical time for the system and it needs to keep the plates in the air until ordinary humans&#039; martial potential is eclipsed is eclipsed by the nascent technodroid legions.]]></description>
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Who has a 40 year investment horizon and how would they not get their lunch eaten in the short term? Our rulers would rather our women work and agitate than rear.
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<p>The indigenous populations of most countries are undergoing managed decline. Software and offshoring have together eliminated the demand for most productive work. And in spite of all of the sub-replacement fertility of the middle- and upper-middle classes, the socioeconomic structure still does not have enough vacancies to support the need of the populations&#8217; youths.</p>
<p>A universal dividend commensurate to the immense per-capita productivity of the modern infoindustrial apparatus is not an option because it would immediately alleviate the financial pressure that is keeping everyone from rebelling.</p>
<p>This is a critical time for the system and it needs to keep the plates in the air until ordinary humans&#8217; martial potential is eclipsed is eclipsed by the nascent technodroid legions.</p>
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		<title>By: RLVC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2020 01:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
“Obedient wives”. All y’all talking trash about that are too f**king funny to parody. What most of you clowns actually are would be domesticated animals who are too f**king stupid to recognize the velvet-lined trap you’re in, thinking you run your lives and that your wife does as you tell her. Ninety-odd percent of you don’t even get a say in how your daughters dress, or if they get to pierce their ears, wear makeup, or wear sexy panties. That’s all your wife, and you think you run your household in some significant way. It’s laughable, really… Sheep, all of you.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL.]]></description>
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“Obedient wives”. All y’all talking trash about that are too f**king funny to parody. What most of you clowns actually are would be domesticated animals who are too f**king stupid to recognize the velvet-lined trap you’re in, thinking you run your lives and that your wife does as you tell her. Ninety-odd percent of you don’t even get a say in how your daughters dress, or if they get to pierce their ears, wear makeup, or wear sexy panties. That’s all your wife, and you think you run your household in some significant way. It’s laughable, really… Sheep, all of you.
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<p>LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 15:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haven&#039;t read this in any depth, but looks interesting:

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2019.2468

I think most women &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; want children, although this desire often doesn&#039;t come to the forefront of their minds until they are somewhere around 30.  Still time to have several kids, if that&#039;s what they want, IF they are already in a relationship...but if they haven&#039;t found Mr Right yet, maybe not so much.

The pressure on people to get post-graduate education, as well as college, isn&#039;t helping here.  Neither is the considerable cost of having additional kids, driven by dysfunctional public education (pay for private school or move to a neighborhood with good public schools, assuming such can be found), expensive college, and land-use practices driving up housing prices.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t read this in any depth, but looks interesting:</p>
<p><a href="https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2019.2468" >https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2019.2468</a></p>
<p>I think most women <em>do</em> want children, although this desire often doesn&#8217;t come to the forefront of their minds until they are somewhere around 30.  Still time to have several kids, if that&#8217;s what they want, IF they are already in a relationship&#8230;but if they haven&#8217;t found Mr Right yet, maybe not so much.</p>
<p>The pressure on people to get post-graduate education, as well as college, isn&#8217;t helping here.  Neither is the considerable cost of having additional kids, driven by dysfunctional public education (pay for private school or move to a neighborhood with good public schools, assuming such can be found), expensive college, and land-use practices driving up housing prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As for Mormons, only about half of the youth stay in the church since the Great Awokening. Our fertility tracks society, though higher (or maybe just lagging). I think its still above replacement for now. Proselyting efforts in the USA are basically treading water. Most growth is now coming in what used to be called 2nd or 3rd world countries or their immigrants. It’s possible that in a 100 years or so that our church is not considered an American church, but a global south church. (Or they are the same.)

Forced fertility will never happen. Children cost at scale just as much as at the family level. Who has a 40 year investment horizon and how would they not get their lunch eaten in the short term? Our rulers would rather our women work and agitate than rear. Those few governments who have tried to boost fertility, have not had an effect greater than noise.

Another point: for almost all women completed fertility is lower than desired fertility (which in aggregate is above replacement).

I recommend Lyman Stone, Brad Wilcox&#039;s research on demography. Mary Eberstadt’s book is to this point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Mormons, only about half of the youth stay in the church since the Great Awokening. Our fertility tracks society, though higher (or maybe just lagging). I think its still above replacement for now. Proselyting efforts in the USA are basically treading water. Most growth is now coming in what used to be called 2nd or 3rd world countries or their immigrants. It’s possible that in a 100 years or so that our church is not considered an American church, but a global south church. (Or they are the same.)</p>
<p>Forced fertility will never happen. Children cost at scale just as much as at the family level. Who has a 40 year investment horizon and how would they not get their lunch eaten in the short term? Our rulers would rather our women work and agitate than rear. Those few governments who have tried to boost fertility, have not had an effect greater than noise.</p>
<p>Another point: for almost all women completed fertility is lower than desired fertility (which in aggregate is above replacement).</p>
<p>I recommend Lyman Stone, Brad Wilcox&#8217;s research on demography. Mary Eberstadt’s book is to this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Obedient wives and children&quot;... Yeah, right; pull the other one. I&#039;ve never seen either one, and the &quot;patriarchy&quot; loons on either side of the line haven&#039;t, either. You idiots remind me of the dumbass GIs that would marry some German chick, thinking they&#039;d found the ultimate in compliant wives, and who then wake up around age 50 going &quot;WTF happened... We&#039;ve never done a damn thing I want or like... Ever...&quot;.

Really successful societies don&#039;t function on authoritarian lines. Each sex has a role/function, and they fulfill it to the best of their ability. The idea that &quot;women are compliant to the male&quot; is a fundamental fallacy, and usually a huge f**king con by the women. Men think they run things, but who the hell is buying the clothes and dressing them? If it&#039;s not them, are they really running their own lives, or are they being &quot;managed&quot;?

It makes me laugh. Ninety-nine percent of the &quot;I wear the pants in my household...&quot; types are the same ones looking over at the wife for permission to go fishing this weekend. And, like as not, all their &quot;friends&quot; are wife-approved, no matter what the longevity of the relationship might have been with their buddies.

&quot;Obedient wives&quot;. All y&#039;all talking trash about that are too f**king funny to parody. What most of you clowns actually are would be domesticated animals who are too f**king stupid to recognize the velvet-lined trap you&#039;re in, thinking you run your lives and that your wife does as you tell her. Ninety-odd percent of you don&#039;t even get a say in how your daughters dress, or if they get to pierce their ears, wear makeup, or wear sexy panties. That&#039;s all your wife, and you think you run your household in some significant way. It&#039;s laughable, really... Sheep, all of you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obedient wives and children&#8221;&#8230; Yeah, right; pull the other one. I&#8217;ve never seen either one, and the &#8220;patriarchy&#8221; loons on either side of the line haven&#8217;t, either. You idiots remind me of the dumbass GIs that would marry some German chick, thinking they&#8217;d found the ultimate in compliant wives, and who then wake up around age 50 going &#8220;WTF happened&#8230; We&#8217;ve never done a damn thing I want or like&#8230; Ever&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Really successful societies don&#8217;t function on authoritarian lines. Each sex has a role/function, and they fulfill it to the best of their ability. The idea that &#8220;women are compliant to the male&#8221; is a fundamental fallacy, and usually a huge f**king con by the women. Men think they run things, but who the hell is buying the clothes and dressing them? If it&#8217;s not them, are they really running their own lives, or are they being &#8220;managed&#8221;?</p>
<p>It makes me laugh. Ninety-nine percent of the &#8220;I wear the pants in my household&#8230;&#8221; types are the same ones looking over at the wife for permission to go fishing this weekend. And, like as not, all their &#8220;friends&#8221; are wife-approved, no matter what the longevity of the relationship might have been with their buddies.</p>
<p>&#8220;Obedient wives&#8221;. All y&#8217;all talking trash about that are too f**king funny to parody. What most of you clowns actually are would be domesticated animals who are too f**king stupid to recognize the velvet-lined trap you&#8217;re in, thinking you run your lives and that your wife does as you tell her. Ninety-odd percent of you don&#8217;t even get a say in how your daughters dress, or if they get to pierce their ears, wear makeup, or wear sexy panties. That&#8217;s all your wife, and you think you run your household in some significant way. It&#8217;s laughable, really&#8230; Sheep, all of you.</p>
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