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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2025 00:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“That’s just my elevator story.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“That’s just my elevator story.”</p>
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		<title>By: Grasspunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grasspunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2025 09:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It was completely besmeared with blood&quot;

This reminds me of Peter Bogdanovich&#039;s story about riding in an elevator with Alfred Hitchcock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqXFtWSBBd4]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was completely besmeared with blood&#8221;</p>
<p>This reminds me of Peter Bogdanovich&#8217;s story about riding in an elevator with Alfred Hitchcock.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqXFtWSBBd4" >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqXFtWSBBd4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have a religious framework for it either, and I don&#039;t think that&#039;s exactly necessary to see degeneracy for what it is.

I&#039;m an Xer, so I guess my perspective is that a lot of things that used to be too much repressed got liberated a bit just before I was born and through my youth, and now have slipped the reins. Comedy sarcasm culture, postmodern art, normalization and elevation of exotic sexual habits, stoner culture. That last I&#039;m not sure of- I always found stoner culture annoying but based on the last year or so, legalized pot in Canada seems to have not expanded its reach- just smug middle class occasional toker values. Interesting that some of the moralizing backlash now comes from the left, albeit only very selectively.

Still, I feel I must protest on behalf of the spirit of the times, so here goes:

&quot;No, No, No. all the stuff in Miley&#039;s video is a healthy expression of sexuality and individualism informed by the latest wisdom from the philosophers. Degeneracy is a hetero married couple living in a detached suburban home with their 2-3 legitimate naturally conceived and born children. Obviously the father is sexually assaulting them all and the mother is an drunk and an enabler.&quot;

There, that should cement my bona fides with the 21st century.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a religious framework for it either, and I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s exactly necessary to see degeneracy for what it is.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an Xer, so I guess my perspective is that a lot of things that used to be too much repressed got liberated a bit just before I was born and through my youth, and now have slipped the reins. Comedy sarcasm culture, postmodern art, normalization and elevation of exotic sexual habits, stoner culture. That last I&#8217;m not sure of- I always found stoner culture annoying but based on the last year or so, legalized pot in Canada seems to have not expanded its reach- just smug middle class occasional toker values. Interesting that some of the moralizing backlash now comes from the left, albeit only very selectively.</p>
<p>Still, I feel I must protest on behalf of the spirit of the times, so here goes:</p>
<p>&#8220;No, No, No. all the stuff in Miley&#8217;s video is a healthy expression of sexuality and individualism informed by the latest wisdom from the philosophers. Degeneracy is a hetero married couple living in a detached suburban home with their 2-3 legitimate naturally conceived and born children. Obviously the father is sexually assaulting them all and the mother is an drunk and an enabler.&#8221;</p>
<p>There, that should cement my bona fides with the 21st century.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2020 07:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buckethead says,&quot;I don’t know if you’re thinking of Orson Scott Card’s &lt;a href=&quot;https://amzn.to/3c0mV8O&quot;&gt;Pastwatch&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;

That&#039;s got to be it. I&#039;ve read a lot of, maybe all of, Orson Scott Card. I like his stuff.

I like &lt;a href=&quot;https://amzn.to/2SNmuXN&quot;&gt;Ender&#039;s Game&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://amzn.to/2VbtbVe&quot;&gt;Ender&#039;s Shadow&lt;/a&gt; [really good] best.

The &lt;a href=&quot;https://amzn.to/2HFehyu&quot;&gt;Formic wars&lt;/a&gt; are OK too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buckethead says,&#8221;I don’t know if you’re thinking of Orson Scott Card’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3c0mV8O">Pastwatch</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s got to be it. I&#8217;ve read a lot of, maybe all of, Orson Scott Card. I like his stuff.</p>
<p>I like <a href="https://amzn.to/2SNmuXN">Ender&#8217;s Game</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/2VbtbVe">Ender&#8217;s Shadow</a> [really good] best.</p>
<p>The <a href="https://amzn.to/2HFehyu">Formic wars</a> are OK too.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2020 07:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I watched the videos. I like a bit of, remote voyeuristic
,degeneracy. I mean we all slow down to look at car crashes but we don&#039;t really WANT car crashes. We wouldn&#039;t order one up. I see look at these degenerates the same way. What bothers me about these things is that some people believe this is normal and a promising path. Sure I like to look at some of it occasionally but I know that it&#039;s a bad path. I&#039;m hardly a huge bible thumper so that&#039;s not the reason. It&#039;s certainly no way to run a country. Wide spread degeneracy will eventually destroy a country. To make things work you have hold this sort of degeneracy down to a low level.

I have no solid proof but there&#039;s a shit of people that say the Jews that run Hollywood worship demons. We know for 100% fact that people worship Jesus as the son of God is it so hard to believe that some people invest the same attitude towards Satan? I know for a fact that they have sex with underage kids. There&#039;s just way to much solid data on that. I expect the whole thing is built on the massive hatred Jews have for...damn near anyone and some times even themselves.

I just got through watching Taylor.Swift.Miss.Americana.2020 like a few hours ago[hmmm...coincidences???]. They try to make it uplifting[Taylor good, stupid rednecks bad] as it&#039;s a sort of documentary. The whole time I&#039;m thinking about how she is obsessed with being adored and the center of attention. I also can see her morphing over time where she is slowly losing touch with the average person and turning into a Hollywood person. I bet she has no idea and doesn&#039;t even see it herself how harmful what she is doing to herself and other little girls. As she&#039;s making this stuff I can see her thinking,&quot;it&#039;s just a lark&quot;[my Jews agent told me it would be edgy and great!!!] but to some it&#039;s not. Most people for all history that want to be actors, singers and that sort have been fucked up people who are degenerate. Fine I don&#039;t care but they shouldn&#039;t pretend that they are not.

Miley Cyrus...she&#039;s just fucked up, period. I wonder if she will kill herself. If she doesn&#039;t her Jew agents will to suck the last bit of coin out of her and pretend that she killed herself.

There&#039;s a shit load of psychopaths in Hollywood. Look at this clip where a guy was making a movie about Kurt Cobain and Courtney and ran across this guy. These people are sick as fuck. They are seriously evil.

Kurt &amp; Courtney - El Duce Interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho2nK5IQs_g

El Duce of the Mentors talks about Kurt Cobain &amp; Courtney Love 8-30- 96 Before his Murder, 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbXZB9YDj3g

Of course El Duce is...no more. Fell asleep on a railroad track and got cut in two. Wink, wink.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the videos. I like a bit of, remote voyeuristic<br />
,degeneracy. I mean we all slow down to look at car crashes but we don&#8217;t really WANT car crashes. We wouldn&#8217;t order one up. I see look at these degenerates the same way. What bothers me about these things is that some people believe this is normal and a promising path. Sure I like to look at some of it occasionally but I know that it&#8217;s a bad path. I&#8217;m hardly a huge bible thumper so that&#8217;s not the reason. It&#8217;s certainly no way to run a country. Wide spread degeneracy will eventually destroy a country. To make things work you have hold this sort of degeneracy down to a low level.</p>
<p>I have no solid proof but there&#8217;s a shit of people that say the Jews that run Hollywood worship demons. We know for 100% fact that people worship Jesus as the son of God is it so hard to believe that some people invest the same attitude towards Satan? I know for a fact that they have sex with underage kids. There&#8217;s just way to much solid data on that. I expect the whole thing is built on the massive hatred Jews have for&#8230;damn near anyone and some times even themselves.</p>
<p>I just got through watching Taylor.Swift.Miss.Americana.2020 like a few hours ago[hmmm...coincidences???]. They try to make it uplifting[Taylor good, stupid rednecks bad] as it&#8217;s a sort of documentary. The whole time I&#8217;m thinking about how she is obsessed with being adored and the center of attention. I also can see her morphing over time where she is slowly losing touch with the average person and turning into a Hollywood person. I bet she has no idea and doesn&#8217;t even see it herself how harmful what she is doing to herself and other little girls. As she&#8217;s making this stuff I can see her thinking,&#8221;it&#8217;s just a lark&#8221;[my Jews agent told me it would be edgy and great!!!] but to some it&#8217;s not. Most people for all history that want to be actors, singers and that sort have been fucked up people who are degenerate. Fine I don&#8217;t care but they shouldn&#8217;t pretend that they are not.</p>
<p>Miley Cyrus&#8230;she&#8217;s just fucked up, period. I wonder if she will kill herself. If she doesn&#8217;t her Jew agents will to suck the last bit of coin out of her and pretend that she killed herself.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a shit load of psychopaths in Hollywood. Look at this clip where a guy was making a movie about Kurt Cobain and Courtney and ran across this guy. These people are sick as fuck. They are seriously evil.</p>
<p>Kurt &amp; Courtney &#8211; El Duce Interview</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho2nK5IQs_g" >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho2nK5IQs_g</a></p>
<p>El Duce of the Mentors talks about Kurt Cobain &amp; Courtney Love 8-30- 96 Before his Murder, </p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbXZB9YDj3g" >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbXZB9YDj3g</a></p>
<p>Of course El Duce is&#8230;no more. Fell asleep on a railroad track and got cut in two. Wink, wink.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2020 23:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t watch the last of those videos in Canada but the first two look, in their different ways, about right for the times.

At least Taylor continues to be nice to look at most of the time. That Miley Cyrus video is as stupid and ugly as music videos get.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t watch the last of those videos in Canada but the first two look, in their different ways, about right for the times.</p>
<p>At least Taylor continues to be nice to look at most of the time. That Miley Cyrus video is as stupid and ugly as music videos get.</p>
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		<title>By: RLVC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2020 23:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kirk, what do you think that the Germans did so as to deserve a holocaust?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk, what do you think that the Germans did so as to deserve a holocaust?</p>
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		<title>By: RLVC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2020 23:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam: &quot;The above quote is most excellent. Impressive. Could this not be true? Look at the drawings of the Aztecs and tell me these people did not do a shit load of psychedelics. People doing a lot of DMT or Ayahuasca have commented on demonic agents in some cases driving people insane.&quot;

There are other reasons to think that demons are real. For instance, the latest cultural works of Babylon-on-the-Sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T2RonyJ_Ts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tmd-ClpJxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX1puTIogCw

The alternative is that these satanic patterns recur across time and space for absolutely no reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam: &#8220;The above quote is most excellent. Impressive. Could this not be true? Look at the drawings of the Aztecs and tell me these people did not do a shit load of psychedelics. People doing a lot of DMT or Ayahuasca have commented on demonic agents in some cases driving people insane.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are other reasons to think that demons are real. For instance, the latest cultural works of Babylon-on-the-Sea.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T2RonyJ_Ts" >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T2RonyJ_Ts</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tmd-ClpJxA" >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tmd-ClpJxA</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX1puTIogCw" >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX1puTIogCw</a></p>
<p>The alternative is that these satanic patterns recur across time and space for absolutely no reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never been able to figure out Card&#039;s worldview.

But in this case, I can&#039;t quite figure out what if any scenario produces a world of modern science and technology and wealth, without some or all of the deleterious consequences. Especially if, in the absense of Euro diseases, the starting population of the world circa 1600 is much larger.

Perhaps the premise is that a poorer Europe never manages the industrial revolution at all, and neither India nor China does either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been able to figure out Card&#8217;s worldview.</p>
<p>But in this case, I can&#8217;t quite figure out what if any scenario produces a world of modern science and technology and wealth, without some or all of the deleterious consequences. Especially if, in the absense of Euro diseases, the starting population of the world circa 1600 is much larger.</p>
<p>Perhaps the premise is that a poorer Europe never manages the industrial revolution at all, and neither India nor China does either.</p>
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		<title>By: Buckethead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buckethead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2020 10:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don’t know if you’re thinking of Orson Scott Card’s &lt;a href=&quot;https://amzn.to/3c0mV8O&quot;&gt;Pastwatch&lt;/a&gt;. That one had a scenario where in our future, they’d developed a tech where they could view but not interact with the past. Life was getting steadily worse to to environmental issues and resource depletion. 

They discover that another timeline had redirected Columbus west, because in their world, Columbus had led a renewed crusade against Islam, which allowed the Aztecs to take over thanks to Europe being weakened by fighting the Muslims. 

So they go back in time to create a new timeline where things turn out better. They immunize the Indians, introduce a pseudo Christianity, and the Europeans aren’t able to despoil the earth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know if you’re thinking of Orson Scott Card’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3c0mV8O">Pastwatch</a>. That one had a scenario where in our future, they’d developed a tech where they could view but not interact with the past. Life was getting steadily worse to to environmental issues and resource depletion. </p>
<p>They discover that another timeline had redirected Columbus west, because in their world, Columbus had led a renewed crusade against Islam, which allowed the Aztecs to take over thanks to Europe being weakened by fighting the Muslims. </p>
<p>So they go back in time to create a new timeline where things turn out better. They immunize the Indians, introduce a pseudo Christianity, and the Europeans aren’t able to despoil the earth.</p>
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