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	<title>Comments on: If all Men are born free, how is it that all Women are born Slaves?</title>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2020 19:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RLVC,

I actually think there is majority support in my own country Canada for mass immigration, for a while now. Probably not 30 years ago, but generations change.

SO what was elite decision making then is conventional wisdom now.

For the US, it seems as though at least some large minority is in favour of it enough now that even the most rudimentary control attempts can produce fairly widespread hysteria. Maybe not much commitment, but willingess to buy the narrative of a smaller group that such measures represent an evil.

In the larger sense, I was more meaning that for generations no one has been willing to do anything about it. That&#039;s consent of the governed in practice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RLVC,</p>
<p>I actually think there is majority support in my own country Canada for mass immigration, for a while now. Probably not 30 years ago, but generations change.</p>
<p>SO what was elite decision making then is conventional wisdom now.</p>
<p>For the US, it seems as though at least some large minority is in favour of it enough now that even the most rudimentary control attempts can produce fairly widespread hysteria. Maybe not much commitment, but willingess to buy the narrative of a smaller group that such measures represent an evil.</p>
<p>In the larger sense, I was more meaning that for generations no one has been willing to do anything about it. That&#8217;s consent of the governed in practice.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2020 04:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is freedom in any place that you can walk out of. People freely choose to work in cubicles, fuck around on Tinder, abuse drugs, etc.

Men and women are not equally suited to freedom. White men have been free since the dawn of time -- not all white men of course, but nearly all who passed on their genes. Men who used their freedom unwisely soon starved or fell into bondage and died without issue.

Women have always been slaves until recently, so it shouldn&#039;t surprise anyone (nor would it surprise anyone born before 1800) that when given freedom, women make life choices that result in very few offspring.

Politicians think they can solve this problem by importing taxpayers instead of breeding them, but this is doomed to fail because the reluctance of productive citizens to reproduce is now a global phenomenon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is freedom in any place that you can walk out of. People freely choose to work in cubicles, fuck around on Tinder, abuse drugs, etc.</p>
<p>Men and women are not equally suited to freedom. White men have been free since the dawn of time &#8212; not all white men of course, but nearly all who passed on their genes. Men who used their freedom unwisely soon starved or fell into bondage and died without issue.</p>
<p>Women have always been slaves until recently, so it shouldn&#8217;t surprise anyone (nor would it surprise anyone born before 1800) that when given freedom, women make life choices that result in very few offspring.</p>
<p>Politicians think they can solve this problem by importing taxpayers instead of breeding them, but this is doomed to fail because the reluctance of productive citizens to reproduce is now a global phenomenon.</p>
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		<title>By: RLVC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2020 03:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave,

You claim that women have been set free, but is freedom to be found in unrelenting corporate servitude and unshackled promiscuity?

The same for both sexes.

Graham,

In 1965, &quot;[d]uring debate on the Senate floor, Senator Ted Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the Act, said, &#039;our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset.&#039;&quot;

There has never been any popular support for immigration — not in any place, nor at any time. Under the ordinary definition of democracy as &quot;rule by the common populace&quot;, immigration under a democratic system is the result of subversion carried out by covert entities acting against the public interest.

It&#039;s difficult to make a convincing argument that the bewildered sheeple deserve the government with which they are afflicted unless one dispenses with one&#039;s sense of right and wrong. You&#039;re welcome to do so, but I can tell you that I once took it to its logical conclusion, and its form was tiresome to look upon.

&lt;i&gt;Ph&#039;nglui mglw&#039;nafh Cthulhu R&#039;lyeh wgah&#039;nagl fhtagn.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>You claim that women have been set free, but is freedom to be found in unrelenting corporate servitude and unshackled promiscuity?</p>
<p>The same for both sexes.</p>
<p>Graham,</p>
<p>In 1965, &#8220;[d]uring debate on the Senate floor, Senator Ted Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the Act, said, &#8216;our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. &#8230; Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>There has never been any popular support for immigration — not in any place, nor at any time. Under the ordinary definition of democracy as &#8220;rule by the common populace&#8221;, immigration under a democratic system is the result of subversion carried out by covert entities acting against the public interest.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult to make a convincing argument that the bewildered sheeple deserve the government with which they are afflicted unless one dispenses with one&#8217;s sense of right and wrong. You&#8217;re welcome to do so, but I can tell you that I once took it to its logical conclusion, and its form was tiresome to look upon.</p>
<p><i>Ph&#8217;nglui mglw&#8217;nafh Cthulhu R&#8217;lyeh wgah&#8217;nagl fhtagn.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2020 18:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No one is going to ask whether anything is good for the gentiles, least of all the gentiles.

And while things may be changing, for decades now people in Western Europe and North America have in fact been voting to replace themselves.It may not have been issue number one or ten on their minds, but they cast ballots for it just the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is going to ask whether anything is good for the gentiles, least of all the gentiles.</p>
<p>And while things may be changing, for decades now people in Western Europe and North America have in fact been voting to replace themselves.It may not have been issue number one or ten on their minds, but they cast ballots for it just the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2020 17:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No RLVC, women did not cause those problems. Setting women free caused those problems.

You are a free man if you can get a passport and leave the country. If your passport is denied or cancelled because of back taxes or child support, you are a slave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No RLVC, women did not cause those problems. Setting women free caused those problems.</p>
<p>You are a free man if you can get a passport and leave the country. If your passport is denied or cancelled because of back taxes or child support, you are a slave.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2020 16:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Nature has given women so much power that the law has very wisely given them little.&quot;

Samuel Johnson, 18th century England.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nature has given women so much power that the law has very wisely given them little.&#8221;</p>
<p>Samuel Johnson, 18th century England.</p>
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		<title>By: McChuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>McChuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2020 12:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At least when women had fewer rights, they had more children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least when women had fewer rights, they had more children.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dividualist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dividualist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2020 11:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is precisely why the idea that all men are born free, and especially the idea that all men are born equal was a terrible idea. When white men have a hierarchy, something like feudalism, everybody else can accept a hierarchy. But when equality is the general idea, women, blacks, gays, everybody gonna ask &quot;why are we exceptions?&quot; 

So the roots of SJWery were sown centuries ago. Only if white men accept that they were born unequal, born into a hierarchy, and that also makes them unfree because their position in their hiearchy gives them duties, can everybody else be made to accept the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is precisely why the idea that all men are born free, and especially the idea that all men are born equal was a terrible idea. When white men have a hierarchy, something like feudalism, everybody else can accept a hierarchy. But when equality is the general idea, women, blacks, gays, everybody gonna ask &#8220;why are we exceptions?&#8221; </p>
<p>So the roots of SJWery were sown centuries ago. Only if white men accept that they were born unequal, born into a hierarchy, and that also makes them unfree because their position in their hiearchy gives them duties, can everybody else be made to accept the same.</p>
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		<title>By: DJF</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2020 05:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretty sure the assertion she changed is Rousseau&#039;s, not Locke&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty sure the assertion she changed is Rousseau&#8217;s, not Locke&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: RLVC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2020 05:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Libertarianism is dead.

Neoconservatism is dead.

Neoreaction is dead.

Probably, ideology itself is dead. The only question that anyone will ever ask is, &quot;Yes, but it is good for the gentiles?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Libertarianism is dead.</p>
<p>Neoconservatism is dead.</p>
<p>Neoreaction is dead.</p>
<p>Probably, ideology itself is dead. The only question that anyone will ever ask is, &#8220;Yes, but it is good for the gentiles?&#8221;</p>
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