<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The bird&#8217;s fingers are important for steering</title>
	<atom:link href="https://www.isegoria.net/2020/01/the-birds-fingers-are-important-for-steering/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/01/the-birds-fingers-are-important-for-steering/</link>
	<description>From the ancient Greek for equality in freedom of speech; an eclectic mix of thoughts, large and small</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 21:34:46 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alistair</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/01/the-birds-fingers-are-important-for-steering/comment-page-1/#comment-3030460</link>
		<dc:creator>Alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2020 11:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.isegoria.net/?p=46095#comment-3030460</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Ah, well, in defence of Herbert, the universe of &lt;em&gt;Dune&lt;/em&gt; has arbitrarily advanced technology in many aspects; just no &lt;em&gt;computers&lt;/em&gt;. Their bio-gene-tech, in particular, seems to be very advanced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, well, in defence of Herbert, the universe of <em>Dune</em> has arbitrarily advanced technology in many aspects; just no <em>computers</em>. Their bio-gene-tech, in particular, seems to be very advanced.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/01/the-birds-fingers-are-important-for-steering/comment-page-1/#comment-3030130</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2020 01:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.isegoria.net/?p=46095#comment-3030130</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Herbert wasn&#039;t an aerodynamic engineer. I imagine he just wanted an exotic-sounding &quot;thing&quot; to throw in there, so that it sounded different. I remember reading that &quot;thopter&quot; thing, and going &quot;WTF? How would that even work...?&quot;.

Thing to remember here is that what works in organic living context does not always do so well when it comes time to fabricate the damn thing in inert man-made materials. Witness the joys and humiliations of the poor bastards trying to replicate the hydrodynamics of whale and dolphin skin/blubber in covering our subs. The anechoic tiles we have to resort to are insanely expensive, prone to falling off, and mostly nowhere near as good as what whales and dolphins grow naturally for moving through the water. Same-same with the special suits for competitive swimmers--Those are crazy expensive and a massive pain in the ass to maintain.

Until we&#039;re bio-engineering giant birds, the most you&#039;re going to do is emulate basic principles. I can only imagine what a huge pain in the ass it would be to have to maintain a set of artificial wing feathers for some ungodly mechanical bird, no matter how effective it might be in some applications.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herbert wasn&#8217;t an aerodynamic engineer. I imagine he just wanted an exotic-sounding &#8220;thing&#8221; to throw in there, so that it sounded different. I remember reading that &#8220;thopter&#8221; thing, and going &#8220;WTF? How would that even work&#8230;?&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thing to remember here is that what works in organic living context does not always do so well when it comes time to fabricate the damn thing in inert man-made materials. Witness the joys and humiliations of the poor bastards trying to replicate the hydrodynamics of whale and dolphin skin/blubber in covering our subs. The anechoic tiles we have to resort to are insanely expensive, prone to falling off, and mostly nowhere near as good as what whales and dolphins grow naturally for moving through the water. Same-same with the special suits for competitive swimmers&#8211;Those are crazy expensive and a massive pain in the ass to maintain.</p>
<p>Until we&#8217;re bio-engineering giant birds, the most you&#8217;re going to do is emulate basic principles. I can only imagine what a huge pain in the ass it would be to have to maintain a set of artificial wing feathers for some ungodly mechanical bird, no matter how effective it might be in some applications.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2020/01/the-birds-fingers-are-important-for-steering/comment-page-1/#comment-3030055</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2020 23:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.isegoria.net/?p=46095#comment-3030055</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[When I read Dune. I noticed Herbert never said the thopters didn&#039;t rotate their wings as well as flap them. Helicopter ornithopters make more sense than just reprising Langley.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read Dune. I noticed Herbert never said the thopters didn&#8217;t rotate their wings as well as flap them. Helicopter ornithopters make more sense than just reprising Langley.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
