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	<title>Comments on: Be an accidental moderate, or be mediocre</title>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/12/be-an-accidental-moderate-or-be-mediocre/comment-page-1/#comment-3025427</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jan 2020 19:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To paraphrase, extremism is no vice, moderation no virtue...

Also, &quot;extremist&quot; is inherently both relative and judgmental. Calling someone a terrorist is, by comparison, merely a technical description of methods and goals. 

Besides, in the modern West, everything our fathers believed is extremist, anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase, extremism is no vice, moderation no virtue&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, &#8220;extremist&#8221; is inherently both relative and judgmental. Calling someone a terrorist is, by comparison, merely a technical description of methods and goals. </p>
<p>Besides, in the modern West, everything our fathers believed is extremist, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Behind Enemy Lines</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/12/be-an-accidental-moderate-or-be-mediocre/comment-page-1/#comment-3025010</link>
		<dc:creator>Behind Enemy Lines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jan 2020 03:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul Graham&#039;s a fine writer and an interesting thinker, especially on tech and education. But when he slips into party political issues, he misses as often as he hits. This article&#039;s a good example.

He tries to position the moderate as being on a scale of political opinion about halfway between an exaggerated right and left. In that sense, a moderate is really just someone who won&#039;t start a ruckus at Thanksgiving. While this tells us something useful about a person&#039;s character, it says nothing about the merit of their political views.

For &#039;moderate&#039; to be meaningful, Graham should be using a different scale: true / false or correct / incorrect.

An intentional moderate (&#039;trimmer&#039;) isn&#039;t someone who deliberately chooses the middle path between right and left. He&#039;s someone who tries to find a middle path between right and wrong, and therefore invariably comes to a position somewhere out on the left wing of politics.

An accidental moderate isn&#039;t someone who makes up his mind on each issue. An accidental moderate is someone who is ignorant of the issues and doesn&#039;t want to squabble over them. 

Moderates are great to have around when political beliefs are friction-free enough that two parties can work together. 

When political beliefs are so far apart that two parties can&#039;t work together, moderates are a downright liability. They&#039;ll sell out a logical and just policy so that they can avoid conflict, or will be end up being suckers for the left wing&#039;s emotional arguments.

This is why the Democrat party in government is now stiff with ranty ideologues and yet so keen to work with Republican moderates. It&#039;s the ultimate heads-I-win-tails-you-lose deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Graham&#8217;s a fine writer and an interesting thinker, especially on tech and education. But when he slips into party political issues, he misses as often as he hits. This article&#8217;s a good example.</p>
<p>He tries to position the moderate as being on a scale of political opinion about halfway between an exaggerated right and left. In that sense, a moderate is really just someone who won&#8217;t start a ruckus at Thanksgiving. While this tells us something useful about a person&#8217;s character, it says nothing about the merit of their political views.</p>
<p>For &#8216;moderate&#8217; to be meaningful, Graham should be using a different scale: true / false or correct / incorrect.</p>
<p>An intentional moderate (&#8216;trimmer&#8217;) isn&#8217;t someone who deliberately chooses the middle path between right and left. He&#8217;s someone who tries to find a middle path between right and wrong, and therefore invariably comes to a position somewhere out on the left wing of politics.</p>
<p>An accidental moderate isn&#8217;t someone who makes up his mind on each issue. An accidental moderate is someone who is ignorant of the issues and doesn&#8217;t want to squabble over them. </p>
<p>Moderates are great to have around when political beliefs are friction-free enough that two parties can work together. </p>
<p>When political beliefs are so far apart that two parties can&#8217;t work together, moderates are a downright liability. They&#8217;ll sell out a logical and just policy so that they can avoid conflict, or will be end up being suckers for the left wing&#8217;s emotional arguments.</p>
<p>This is why the Democrat party in government is now stiff with ranty ideologues and yet so keen to work with Republican moderates. It&#8217;s the ultimate heads-I-win-tails-you-lose deal.</p>
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		<title>By: RLVC</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/12/be-an-accidental-moderate-or-be-mediocre/comment-page-1/#comment-3024999</link>
		<dc:creator>RLVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Astute observation, Harry.

Some have observed that though there was, at one time, a political spectrum, it seems to have collapsed into a &quot;centrist&quot; singularity. And centrism, as everyone knows, means waging endless wars abroad and soaking the middle class at home.

It&#039;s a truly bipartisan agenda.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astute observation, Harry.</p>
<p>Some have observed that though there was, at one time, a political spectrum, it seems to have collapsed into a &#8220;centrist&#8221; singularity. And centrism, as everyone knows, means waging endless wars abroad and soaking the middle class at home.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a truly bipartisan agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucklucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucklucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2019 05:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is moderation? If someone wants our head, we give him the arm?

At the political level, I think this concept is mostly wrong since I am seeing many so-called moderates being extremists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is moderation? If someone wants our head, we give him the arm?</p>
<p>At the political level, I think this concept is mostly wrong since I am seeing many so-called moderates being extremists.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/12/be-an-accidental-moderate-or-be-mediocre/comment-page-1/#comment-3024924</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Between the Overton window and horseshoe theory, I can&#039;t help but think that the political spectrum is a mirage.

I self identify as a doctrinaire empiricist and pragmatist. Life experience has earned me the right to be rigid about certain things, but not about others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between the Overton window and horseshoe theory, I can&#8217;t help but think that the political spectrum is a mirage.</p>
<p>I self identify as a doctrinaire empiricist and pragmatist. Life experience has earned me the right to be rigid about certain things, but not about others.</p>
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