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	<title>Comments on: If they don’t turn up to school, it doesn’t make the slightest difference</title>
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		<title>By: McChuck</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/11/if-they-dont-turn-up-to-school-it-doesnt-make-the-slightest-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-3008257</link>
		<dc:creator>McChuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2019 12:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Children should not begin formal schooling until age 8.  Boys, especially, need to simply run around and play outside.  Parents can quite easily teach children the basics of the reading and simple math.  (Well, they could if they ever learned it themselves.  Which many don&#039;t in 13 years of modern &quot;education&quot;.)

Schooling should end after 5 years, at age 13-14.  You can teach a child everything they really need to know in that time, if you cut out the extraneous bran washing and time wasting.  Older children learn much more quickly.  Especially if you haven&#039;t already taught them that they are failures and humiliated them.

After that, teens should begin formal apprenticeships, with appropriate part-time schooling and basic work in their fields.  There should be a round-robin testing and application process during the first few months, where students are roughly fitted to their talents and capabilities.

No more than 10% of the population should be allowed to enter a college preparatory course of schooling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Children should not begin formal schooling until age 8.  Boys, especially, need to simply run around and play outside.  Parents can quite easily teach children the basics of the reading and simple math.  (Well, they could if they ever learned it themselves.  Which many don&#8217;t in 13 years of modern &#8220;education&#8221;.)</p>
<p>Schooling should end after 5 years, at age 13-14.  You can teach a child everything they really need to know in that time, if you cut out the extraneous bran washing and time wasting.  Older children learn much more quickly.  Especially if you haven&#8217;t already taught them that they are failures and humiliated them.</p>
<p>After that, teens should begin formal apprenticeships, with appropriate part-time schooling and basic work in their fields.  There should be a round-robin testing and application process during the first few months, where students are roughly fitted to their talents and capabilities.</p>
<p>No more than 10% of the population should be allowed to enter a college preparatory course of schooling.</p>
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		<title>By: CVLR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CVLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 19:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Taylor Gatto

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Every conversation about school should end with

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Taylor Gatto</p>
<p>John Taylor Gatto</p>
<p>John Taylor Gatto</p>
<p>Every conversation about school should end with</p>
<p>John Taylor Gatto</p>
<p>John Taylor Gatto</p>
<p>John Taylor Gatto</p>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 13:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Which is exactly why this notion would be about as easy to actually implement as permanently closing all public schools.&quot;

That&#039;s the truth! Besides, this could possibly create a majority population that knows how to do something for themselves even in adverse conditions. But the powers prefer some level of helplessness or incompetence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Which is exactly why this notion would be about as easy to actually implement as permanently closing all public schools.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the truth! Besides, this could possibly create a majority population that knows how to do something for themselves even in adverse conditions. But the powers prefer some level of helplessness or incompetence.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Beholder</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. Beholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 01:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;But for children a bit older, the working environment allows them to interact with adults, adopt adult social norms and learn skills when their brain is rapidly absorbing information. They could also earn money at a time in life they really want it.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Which is exactly why this notion would be about as easy to actually implement as permanently closing all public schools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But for children a bit older, the working environment allows them to interact with adults, adopt adult social norms and learn skills when their brain is rapidly absorbing information. They could also earn money at a time in life they really want it.</p></blockquote>
<p> Which is exactly why this notion would be about as easy to actually implement as permanently closing all public schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 00:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s really time to let those who can stop education at the 8th grade and go to work part time and continue an education in other ways. High school is another artificial environment where most and especially boys would be better off learning a skill or working toward an associates where they are either fully employable somewhat at 18 or go to university. 

Sure, I’m glad I was not digging ditches scrimping an existence, but the public school systems encourage delayed adulthood just by the nature of the system.

Harry above is right about working for the man, but that would still be more beneficial than sitting around school since they offer no vocational training programs for the tax dollars spent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really time to let those who can stop education at the 8th grade and go to work part time and continue an education in other ways. High school is another artificial environment where most and especially boys would be better off learning a skill or working toward an associates where they are either fully employable somewhat at 18 or go to university. </p>
<p>Sure, I’m glad I was not digging ditches scrimping an existence, but the public school systems encourage delayed adulthood just by the nature of the system.</p>
<p>Harry above is right about working for the man, but that would still be more beneficial than sitting around school since they offer no vocational training programs for the tax dollars spent.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 20:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Productive work: good.
Making money: good.
Working for the man: not so good.

If they&#039;re going to learn to be wage slaves, they can be brainwashed to servility just as well in the school system. Give us child entrepreneurship, not child labor. They&#039;re not too young to freelance if they have ability. (Those without ability are a loss no matter what we do.)

Wage slavery is really just a state of mind, as I said in &lt;a href=&quot;https://blogforchumps.com/2019/06/05/freedom-isnt-free/#comment-3453&quot;&gt;a thread at Blog for Chumps&lt;/a&gt;. But a state of mind doesn&#039;t just come from nowhere. It&#039;s inculcated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Productive work: good.<br />
Making money: good.<br />
Working for the man: not so good.</p>
<p>If they&#8217;re going to learn to be wage slaves, they can be brainwashed to servility just as well in the school system. Give us child entrepreneurship, not child labor. They&#8217;re not too young to freelance if they have ability. (Those without ability are a loss no matter what we do.)</p>
<p>Wage slavery is really just a state of mind, as I said in <a href="https://blogforchumps.com/2019/06/05/freedom-isnt-free/#comment-3453">a thread at Blog for Chumps</a>. But a state of mind doesn&#8217;t just come from nowhere. It&#8217;s inculcated.</p>
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